Thor's Strength Limit

Originally posted by -Pr-
not sure I know what you're getting at.

You really shouldn't talk about such things, especially with how you treated Superman.

Lol...out of that entire post, thats the only thing you saw. I give Superman credit where it is due.

I would love to add to the above post but I am going to leave that alone because I dont want to get a warning.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...out of that entire post, thats the only thing you saw. I give Superman credit where it is due.

I would love to add to the above post but I am going to leave that alone because I dont want to get a warning.

Only now you do, because the fear finally set in.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Only now you do, because the fear finally set in.

Lol...not fear...I'm just playing it smart. When it comes to my posts, I don't get away with a lot. All in all, its best to lose a battle every now and then

You spelled "every damn time" wrong.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You spelled "every damn time" wrong.

Sigh*

IMO Thor average portrayal limits should be somewhere around the high hundreds of tons to the thousands of tons.
His high end limits (rare showings) should be somewhere around the hundreds of millions of tons.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I love hulk. But my issue with him especially under pak was he didn't have a limit. And I hate that about characters. There needs to be a belief that they can be defeated, that there's a strong possibility that they could lose. That makes them relatable

I can see your point, but for example. What is the part of being related to you , you like the most?

Some might relate to that inner rage that might push them to not being able to loose.

Thor has mjolnir, hulk has his strength.

I do think that undefeatable characters are booring, but hulk was far from it, even under pak's run.

Originally posted by Zack Fair

You see I agree. That is why I 👆ed Oliver's post. Like I said I think Thor is capable, as a matter of fact I think high heralds are all capable. Their strength feats are so ridiculous you just can't rule them out. It just happens that Thor's plot has him doing other stuff(like oliver pointed out) more often than just strength feats like Hulk and Superman. I guess what I'm saying Thor has a greater range/arsenal to draw upon while Hulk and Superman's stories/plot demands are more limited.

I dunno if I'm making any sense.

I agree with what you just said 100%, Thor is more versatile than Superman and Hulk and can do a lot more, strength can't be the only deciding factor.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Only now you do, because the fear finally set in.

I think carver is finally learning to respect superman.

On average, city lifting level.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I can see your point, but for example. What is the part of being related to you , you like the most?

Some might relate to that inner rage that might push them to not being able to loose.

Thor has mjolnir, hulk has his strength.

I do think that undefeatable characters are booring, but hulk was far from it, even under pak's run.

The problems with characters like Hulk/Superman/Thor/SS is that writers have to put them into situations where they cant when, where their powers just arent enough to beat a certain villian

Originally posted by Sin I AM
The problems with characters like Hulk/Superman/Thor/SS is that writers have to put them into situations where they cant when, where their powers just arent enough to beat a certain villian

I can see the point. The "goku effect" can be enjoyable if ptesented properly.

As strong as he needs to be, but probably below Kal & Bruce at their highest.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I believe Thor definitely has a limit, though, but generally said limit tends to be catered to the parameters of the story.

How is this any different from the Hulk?

Hulk within the past 5 to 6, probably 8 yrs...his strength has been consistent.

as much as this will make me sound like a pompous dick, I'm amazed by how much agreement there is in this thread.

I haven't been this frequent of a poster in the vs forum for a few years... it looks like stuff might have finally settled down to a consensus on the Hulk/Thor/Supes thing, at least to some degree...

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk within the past 5 to 6, probably 8 yrs...his strength has been consistent.

What? No it hasn't. He's gone up and down like a yoyo. Sure, he never went below High herald, but still.

Originally posted by curryman
How is this any different from the Hulk?

Well, Thor's strength isn't his primary power nor does it have a "cap" that only increases over emotional duress. I don't think Hulk has "infinite strength", but his potential only climbs higher and higher and higher as his anger (ie. plot) demands.

Thor should be able to do what any high Herald is capable of doing strength wise. Haven't seen a cap on his strength yet.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, Thor's strength isn't his primary power nor does it have a "cap" that only increases over emotional duress. I don't think Hulk has "infinite strength", but his potential only climbs higher and higher and higher as his anger (ie. plot) demands.

Okay, I see the difference in that Thor doesn't have established limits where as Hulk has a limit that increases. But for all intents and purposes it just means that they're as strong as the plot demands.

Why is then Hulk always considered as strong as his maximum has allowed maybe once or twice where as Thor operate under a much more reasonable set of rules, where feats determine his capabilities. Sure he has a few incidents of fighting mid-heralds and high heralds (who are either gimped or holding back) but even when you, against all logic, would consider those fights his average then you still can't overlook the fact that these are levels he has to work to reach.

Superman and Thor stop holding back, the Hulk however needs to build up his anger. The Hulk is almost always giving it everything he's got (let Pak's retarded statement lie for a little while) where as Thor and Superman are actively not using their full powers. When they go all out then they suddenly fly into trans+++