spells are different animals. hard to say what kind of effect mags shields would have against loki. he wouldn't be blasting through them, but he might be able to by-pass them some other way. given some of his feats, i think mags could beat loki, but i'd say on average loki would take him for a solid majority.
well, it would a little on how loki went about things imo. blasts wouldn't work. i don't think tp would work. he could try what you said, but could he do that through mag's shield? not so sure. maybe though. i think his best bet (and what he'd do in a comic) would be to fool mags with tricks and illusions to get him to drop his shields. at that point he could take him out pretty easily. he could also likely bfr mags if that were allowed.
i think mags could definitely hurt loki though with blasting. asgardians also bleed so there is the old blood trick. mags has shown some very solid exotic energy control as well and given the nature of his powers (ability to control bonding at the molecular level) i'm not even 100% sure intangibility would stop mags from harming loki (see bullet feat). i think it could be an interesting battle if this is mags at the height of his power. that said, i still think the better case can be made for loki, no doubt.
Originally posted by yaadaveyaaLoki's soloed the X-Men also. And who would be outmatched, Loki or Magneto? The phrasing of your sentence is a little confusing.
i guess my initial post was basically saying mags can take fights solo so the xmen win the forum battle against loki thats all i def think mags puts up a hell of a fight he is a little outmatched he could potentially get out smarted
Originally posted by TheGodKillershe wasnt jobbed, omega mutants are just being written to match their hype, finally. mutants are the seeds celestials sowed to originate future abstracts after all. he didnt kill her either, he became a death god and acquired instinctive knowledge of her dumb cowl weakness.
^Not the first time an Asgardian super-god has been jobbed to an omega mutant.Remember the time when Darwin "killed" Hela?
Originally posted by Kontonthe crystal wasnt attacking him, he adapted to its environment to get chuck, his powers simply follow the easiest way out, but he couldn't self-bfr when dealing with hella because she prevented teleportation with a spell. this forced his response into a more pro-active direction.
And yet when confronted with Hulk of all people his powers thought the best way to adapt was to be far away. Psh.
Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
i guess my initial post was basically saying mags can take fights solo so the xmen win the forum battle against loki thats all i def think mags puts up a hell of a fight he is a little outmatched he could potentially get out smarted
i agree that it would be a solid and entertaining fight. 👆 still not sure about the majority though. loki can certainly win, but i think a case could be made for the xmen as well. it would be interesting to see emma confront loki. the verbal sparring between them alone would be worth the price of admission. she could also help counter his illusions, bobby could add some additional protection, etc... they can def get some wins, imo, but i still might go with a slight overall edge to loki. he's a tricky phukcer.
Originally posted by leonidas
i agree that it would be a solid and entertaining fight. 👆 still not sure about the majority though. loki can certainly win, but i think a case could be made for the xmen as well. it would be interesting to see emma confront loki. the verbal sparring between them alone would be worth the price of admission. she could also help counter his illusions, bobby could add some additional protection, etc... they can def get some wins, imo, but i still might go with a slight overall edge to loki. he's a tricky phukcer.
yea i really didnt give much thought to his illisions he is a tricky lil bastard it would def b close bobby would b trouble for loki as well if the xmen fight smart they can def pull wins emma keeps them from being mind raped for the most part who has the better tp feats between emma and loki im curious
Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
yea i really didnt give much thought to his illisions he is a tricky lil bastard it would def b close bobby would b trouble for loki as well if the xmen fight smart they can def pull wins emma keeps them from being mind raped for the most part who has the better tp feats between emma and loki im curious
in a tp battle, it's a lot easier i think to make a case for emma based on sheer volume of feats. loki def HAS some strong tp though--he can hypnotize people very quickly, and has shown some long range tp as well. not sure what his single best tp feat might be--rage or odg might have something more there off-hand. me, i'd need to look it up and....that's not gonna happen my friend. 🙂 loki might have greater scope of power (maybe) but i'd be hard-pressed to say he's more skilled than she would be (though logic might say he should be) and more hard-pressed to prove it. she'd def come in handy in this battle.
Originally posted by leonidas
i agree that it would be a solid and entertaining fight. 👆 still not sure about the majority though. loki can certainly win, but i think a case could be made for the xmen as well. it would be interesting to see emma confront loki. the verbal sparring between them alone would be worth the price of admission. she could also help counter his illusions, bobby could add some additional protection, etc... they can def get some wins, imo, but i still might go with a slight overall edge to loki. he's a tricky phukcer.
I've seen Enchantress no-sell and laugh at Xavier. Loki also used his magic to augment Sandu to the most powerful mutant -telepath- on the planet. Emma would probably be outmatched trying to play tricks on Loki.
Originally posted by leonidas
well, it would a little on how loki went about things imo. blasts wouldn't work. i don't think tp would work. he could try what you said, but could he do that through mag's shield? not so sure. maybe though. i think his best bet (and what he'd do in a comic) would be to fool mags with tricks and illusions to get him to drop his shields. at that point he could take him out pretty easily. he could also likely bfr mags if that were allowed.i think mags could definitely hurt loki though with blasting. asgardians also bleed so there is the old blood trick. mags has shown some very solid exotic energy control as well and given the nature of his powers (ability to control bonding at the molecular level) i'm not even 100% sure intangibility would stop mags from harming loki (see bullet feat). i think it could be an interesting battle if this is mags at the height of his power. that said, i still think the better case can be made for loki, no doubt.
Magneto's shield has been shown to stop various forms of physical energy but keeping Loki out? I think it would be a challenge directly:
He has easily gotten through Galactus' barrier for example, his Astral Form alone almost easily broke Strange's Eye of Agamatto barrier, he even reversed the polarity of Sue Storm's force field:
http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Loki%20Sorcery/LokiEnergyManipulation10FirstThunder5.jpg.html
And how would Magnus keep Loki's magic out? Usually I'd support Magneto's defenses but he faces a being even more plot device like powers here.
