Star Wars: Rebels!

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Who says he didn't? But then they might have perished on Scariff.

Kanan needs the die though. And Ezra needs to die or convert to the dark side.

Eh they could have escaped even after Vader arrived, cause...ya know...they seem to get out of impossible situations before.

Originally posted by ares834
Nice to get confirmation that it was Hera being commed and not Cham. And, yeah, Kanan and Ezra should be gone by the time of R1, whether that means they are dead or something else.
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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Who says he didn't? But then they might have perished on Scarif.

Kanan needs the die though. And Ezra needs to die or convert to the dark side.

A failed padawan and student who falls on the grey path. Neither are technically Jedi, so it doesn't affect Luke being the "last Jedi Knight".

Except Kanan was knighted as a Jedi Knight soo...he's still a Jedi and Ezra is his apprentice so Jedi Padawan.

Ezra technically really isn't a Jedi and Ahsoka stated she isn't a Jedi. Now Kanan is tricky because he was knighted and did go through the oldschool training. Fighting in the Clone Wars surely sped up his training imo. When Yoda died he said "Gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be" But technically as big at the galaxy is I don't find it hard to believe that even Yoda wasn't sure how many Jedi died.

Originally posted by cdtm
A failed padawan and student who falls on the grey path. Neither are technically Jedi, so it doesn't affect Luke being the "last Jedi Knight".

Kanan is not a "failed padawan". He never failed the Order was simply destroyed before he was knighted. Regardless he was "knighted" by Yoda through a vision.

Plus Luke was not yet a Jedi Knight when Yoda died. So a padawan could still be considered "the last of the Jedi".

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Originally posted by juggernaut74
Ezra technically really isn't a Jedi and Ahsoka stated she isn't a Jedi. Now Kanan is tricky because he was knighted and did go through the oldschool training. Fighting in the Clone Wars surely sped up his training imo. When Yoda died he said "Gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be" But technically as big at the galaxy is I don't find it hard to believe that even Yoda wasn't sure how many Jedi died.

Well Yoda is incredibly in touch with the Force. He was capable of not only sensing the death of Jedi but when they were in immense pain. Furthermore, he is shown to be capable of communicating with some Jedi such as Kanan and Ezra. So, at the very least, he certainly knows of them and should take them into consideration when saying that Luke is the "last of the Jedi".

Originally posted by ares834
Well Yoda is incredibly in touch with the Force. He was capable of not only sensing the death of Jedi but when they were in immense pain. Furthermore, he is shown to be capable of communicating with some Jedi such as Kanan and Ezra. So, at the very least, he certainly knows of them and should take them into consideration when saying that Luke is the "last of the Jedi".
True, but Yoda didn't know if they all died so he had Kenobi sending a warning message to all Jedi to stay away from the temple. Also, in the old canon there was like 200 Jedi who were alive after the events of Return of the Jedi so it is possible Yoda didn't really know for sure.

Sure, it's possible but stupid. Dozens of Jedi surviving in the EU was stupid and it would be just as stupid in Disney Canon. Especially if it was Jedi that Yoda had been in contact with after the Purge.

Yeah that was pretty stupid...

Originally posted by ares834
Sure, it's possible but stupid. Dozens of Jedi surviving in the EU was stupid and it would be just as stupid in Disney Canon. Especially if it was Jedi that Yoda had been in contact with after the Purge.
I agree it was stupid. But maybe Yoda lost contact with the Jedi for fear of using the force may draw the attention of the Empire?

I thought it was pretty dumb of Obi-Wan to whip out his lightsaber and chop off Evazan's in a New Hope with the Stormtroopers running around all over the place.

Yoda was fully aware of Kanan and Ezra. So they both need to be gone by ROTJ at least.

And they really shouldn't be aiding the rebellion during the events of R1 either.

It was clear there were no Jedi helping at that point, hence the need to call on Obi-Wan.

I'd be fine if they survive. There's plenty of ways to pull it off.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I'd be fine if they survive. There's plenty of ways to pull it off.

Well for some reason Yoda would have to believe they are dead. Although that doesn't necessarily have to be pre-R1.

But by R1 they can't be with the Rebellion.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yoda was fully aware of Kanan and Ezra. So they both need to be gone by ROTJ at least.

And they really shouldn't be aiding the rebellion during the events of R1 either.

It was clear there were no Jedi helping at that point, hence the need to call on Obi-Wan.

OR they could just alter continuity a bit in Rebels... Wouldn't exactly be the first time. 😛

Originally posted by juggernaut74
True, but Yoda didn't know if they all died so he had Kenobi sending a warning message to all Jedi to stay away from the temple. Also, in the old canon there was like 200 Jedi who were alive after the events of Return of the Jedi so it is possible Yoda didn't really know for sure.

I always thought that what that meant was that any Jedi who had survived the purge were in permanent hiding, likely never to take up the ways of the Order again or people like Ahsoka. Force sensitives with sabers who had abandoned the Jedi way.

It seems many Jedi had survived though considering the Inquisitors were hunting them + Palpatine seems to think there are other Lost Jedi.

I think Palpatine was more concerned with young Force sensitives "children of the Force".

Yeah, it seems implied that Palpatine's concern is with a new generation rising up. People like Ezra, for example, finding the last remnants of the Jedi and receiving tutelage.

Ultimately, this means Luke and Leia, but Palpatine doesn't know that at this point in the timeline.

The idea of Jedi in "permanent hiding" never sat well with me. Yoda and Obi-Wan went into hiding with a goal in mind, and even Ahsoka found a way to help the Rebellion. I'd hate to think that other Jedi just sat back when we keep getting examples in the new canon of the remaining Jedi actively moving against the Empire.

8 more days till Rebels comes back! I saw some summaries of the upcoming episodes, looks nice...not too thrilled about the Darksaber, but maybe that's just Old Legends nagging up on me.

Link to the episode synopsis?