Star Wars: Rebels!

Started by Beniboybling142 pages

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Only war criminals cause they lost....you forgetting the Geonosian arena battle where they sent out their produced factory droids? That they killed Jedi with sonic weapons? That they continued to help the CIS against the Republic in the Clone Wars?

That seems like grounds for being war criminals.

Yes it is, but again, why would the Imperial Senate care that they were gassed? As far as they would be concerned, they were partly responsible for however many homes and lives were lost in the Clone Wars.

The Jedi that invaded their planet? I recall yeah.

And yeah helping the CIS wage war against the Republic is in many ways no less better than helping the Republic do the same. You realise that the Separatists actually felt they had legitimate reasons for fighting?

None of this makes them deserved of being gassed lol and if anyone in the Senate had a basic sense of morality they would not condone genocide lmao.

Quick question though, would you have been OK with gassing the entire German population at the end of WW2?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The Jedi that invaded their planet? I recall yeah.

And yeah helping the CIS wage war against the Republic is in many ways no less better than helping the Republic do the same. You realise that the Separatists actually felt they had legitimate reasons for fighting?

None of this makes them deserved of being gassed lol and if anyone in the Senate had a basic sense of morality they would not condone genocide lmao.

Quick question though, would you have been OK with gassing the entire German population at the end of WW2?

While they were planning something with a Sith Lord and pretty much ready to attack the Republic? You recall that? That they allied with the TF, who previously had invaded Naboo in TPM?

So did the Republic.

Apparently they don't aside from a very few like Padme and Bail, but seeing as the Senate didn't really care much for the Jedi getting wiped out, ya know those who defended and helped the Republic for over 1,000 years...why would they care for Geonosians?

No, but I don't see why you're asking me, when this isn't RL.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
While they were planning something with a Sith Lord and pretty much ready to attack the Republic? You recall that? That they allied with the TF, who previously had invaded Naboo in TPM?
Dooku wasn't widely known as a Sith Lord, which is simply another Force philosophy as far as most people are concerned, the Republic having passed the Military Creation Act were just as prepared to attack the Separatists, and being allied with the Trade Federation doesn't make them complicit in their past actions. Not that any of this constitutes a war crime.

So did the Republic.
Exactly, this isn't a fight between good and evil.

Apparently they don't aside from a very few like Padme and Bail, but seeing as the Senate didn't really care much for the Jedi getting wiped out, ya know those who defended and helped the Republic for over 1,000 years...why would they care for Geonosians?
According to what? And the Senate was led to believe that the Jedi were attempting to overthrow the Republic, or rather a serious threat, and not exactly non-combatants. That said their were plenty of detractors.

No, but I don't see why you're asking me, when this isn't RL.
Because morality in SW is based on RL. 😕

Just trying to help you understand why they might see committing genocide against their (former) enemies as a bad thing, which for the record, is an actual war crime!

Of course it's a bad thing...but again, for like the 3rd time. I'm asking, why would the Imperial Senate care? Yeah some might, but the majority?

Of course, we don't really know if they would or wouldn't, so I guess in the end it's pointless to ask.

I'm merely asking, because the Rebels crew sounded like the Senate would just say "Oh...ok..."

Like how would they know the mindset of the entire Senate?

Because they are not evil Nazis. 🙂

EDIT: And even if we assumed they were baying for the Geonosian's blood at the end of the Clone Wars, almost 20 years have passed, most of the senators are probably new.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Because they are not evil Nazis. 🙂

So? They don't have to be.

How do you know the entire mindset of the Senate?

I'm merely just asking this, because the Rebels crew sounded like the entire Senate would just go along with it, when that's bull....they wouldn't know what the entire Senate would think.

Anyway I'm just gonna end it, don't just wanna clutter this thread.

Yup they do.

And see my edit.

Also I haven't seen the episode yet, so what exactly are they A'OKing?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Because they are not evil Nazis. 🙂

EDIT: And even if we assumed they were baying for the Geonosian's blood at the end of the Clone Wars, almost 20 years have passed, most of the senators are probably new.

Maybe? But we have yet to see that.

But this is really all speculation here, so I'll just end it.

Not really, in ANH Leia says that the Imperial Senate wouldn't condone Vader's attack on her cruiser, and later Motti(?) tells us that the Rebel Alliance is gaining sympathy in the Senate. Or in other words they are aligned much more with the "good guys" that the Republic Senate ever was, to whom even for them genocide would be a stretch.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Not really, in ANH Leia says that the Imperial Senate wouldn't condone Vader's attack on her cruiser, and later Motti(?) tells us that the Rebel Alliance is gaining sympathy in the Senate. Or in other words they are aligned much more with the "good guys" that the Republic Senate ever was, to whom even for them genocide would be a stretch.

Rebels is before ANH though, plus since Leia was apart of the Imperial Senate I'm sure they wouldn't condone an attack on one of their Senator's ships...not that Leia was truly apart of it. /Shrug.

So yeah, there could have been some changes at some point in time, but at what point?

But I'm not wanting to go back and forth on this any longer.

Wow, Ezra calls the Geonosian guy Clik Clak because he can't pronounce his name, what a racist white imperialist. 🙂

Specist might be a better term.

And Bail himself thinks the evidence of genocide would generate more sympathy for the Rebellion in the Senate lol.

Next episode seems kinda meh unless something big happens, then we get those 2 Mando episodes...which frankly those episodes to me have been kinda boring, so hopefully these two won't be, that and the air dates seem very far apart which I'm not big on if it's suppose to be a 2 part episode. One after that, big surprise...Kallus gets rescued, but maybe he'll die...I kinda doubt the latter but we'll see.

Good episode, the AP5-Chopper-Zeb combo worked pretty well and there was a good mix of action and humor. I also liked how you really felt the tension in it and nice to see the show doesn't shy away from mass murder.

I won't be able to watch it until tomorrow morning when it become available on Google Play.

Yeah I actually pay to watch it, gotta support to keep it going.

So forgot to post, but it was a....eh alright episode. Though one thing, but why is Hera the base commander? Her whole character arc thing in S1 was about being a pilot, being in the stars, etc and then she becoming a flighter squadron leader.

Now...she is a base commander because......??? Unless I missed something as to why that is in a previous episode.

She's just moving up the ladder, by the time of Rogue One she is a General.

As for the episode I thought it was good. Chopper base is all but doomed, it's only a matter of time before Thrawn finds it now.

Right, but it seemed to me her whole character was about being a pilot, that flying was her thing. So to her to go from that characterization to base commander and then later General(it'd make more sense for her to become Admiral tbh, unless they got the ranks confused but I highly doubt that)....seems kinda weird.

I mean I'm all for her moving up, but....gotta move up in the right direction there if her character deemed her as wanting to be a pilot and all that, which does seem more her strong suit than being a ground leader.

Well if you'll notice, despite being Commander, she's still the primary pilot of the Ghost in all it's missions. She's the leader of Phoenix Squadron. She was the only one skilled enough to fly the B-Wing etc... She just has bigger shoes to fill, but she hasn't left the pilot's seat at all.