Khan vs. Darth Vader (pre suit)

Started by quanchi11288 pages

Originally posted by Dolos
His larger canon crippled and only crippled non-shielded, sedentary Klingon vessels, by surprise.

Not only had Anakin's skills increased considerably, but his personal Force reservoir doubled, his telekinesis was far more powerful, Dooku was a weak old man by comparison.

Anakin was stated to have prescient capabilities in combat, Khan was not. He also demonstrated, all things considered, the ability to close the gap and disarm Khan before he pulls the trigger. That's if he doesn't crumple his weapon beforehand with TK, or send projectiles heavy enough to take the super soldier's head off whilst ducking for cover with speed and acrobatics that dwarf his as well.

If you want to take OT into the equation Vader can read Khan's thoughts during combat on top of seeing things before they happen. You gravely underestimate "whiney Ani".

lol, any further argument is pretty moot, null and void, most of the Klingons were able to find cover, despite Khan's obvious advantage of surprise, prep time, and the biggest fricken pair of canons we've seen in the films thus far. Under a fairer versus setting, he doesn't have a prayer of tagging Vader what with his superior speed, reaction times, agility, and telekinetic capabilities to any character in Abram's series.

There was no surprise he was right out in the open. Ships are still far more durable than Anakin. His limbs come off quite easily.

His skills increased but guess what happened against Obi. Crushed.

Anakin just like Jedi can he overwhelmed in combat. Watch Attack of the Clones. We see those combined Jedi would be overwhelmed by the droids who weren't impressive at all despite all those Jedi present. No, he hasn't since we've seen droids pull the trigger before he closes the gap. Do you watch the films ?

This is the same ridiculous manner in which you debate for Superman. You make stuff up and play make believe.

Anakin has never displayed half the competency or ability you exaggerate. Obi flat out tells him not to jump and he does so anyway and loses. A colossal failure.

Khan didn't plan on attacking the Klingon. He showed up and destroyed them despite being on their home world and being right out in the open against their war ships and their men. Vader has to block laser fire and he can't here. Droids can aim at Anakin and are shit compared to clones who are shit compared to Khan. Not hard to figure out.

Khan wins.

Originally posted by KingD19
Those scenes are actually from the Clone Wars tv show. But they follow after the movie so technically I suppose they could be seen as movie canon.
They aren't movie canon. 🙂

This may not count, but post suit vader can actually catch laser blasts with his bare hands. With a lightsaber, he could probably take a bigger shot.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
This may not count, but post suit vader can actually catch laser blasts with his bare hands. With a lightsaber, he could probably take a bigger shot.
Does not count and is contradictory to the movies. Khan wins.

It was in a movie.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
It was in a movie.
Not in canon movies. These are live action films. Sorry, we see him block blaster fire but it doesn't even matter as Khans big gun was far superior to blaster fire.

Empire Strikes Back isn't canon?

he put special clown rules to ESB, so the scene doesnt count...apparently.

This is only pre-suit Vader so apparently all that counts are feats between Sidious naming him and Obi crippling him

Originally posted by juggerman
This is only pre-suit Vader so apparently all that counts are feats between Sidious naming him and Obi crippling him

Ruling out 95% of Vader's feats is the only way quan feels that he has a chance of winning.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Ruling out 95% of Vader's feats is the only way quan feels that he has a chance of winning.

As per the norm

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This thread is funnier than a million Carlin standups 😂

Originally posted by juggerman
As per the norm

Yep; It's either that or he ignores, lowballs and focuses the opposing sides low showings.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Empire Strikes Back isn't canon?
This is pre suit aka irrelevant.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
he put special clown rules to ESB, so the scene doesnt count...apparently.
Care to discuss the context of the scene ?

Originally posted by juggerman
This is only pre-suit Vader so apparently all that counts are feats between Sidious naming him and Obi crippling him
No, Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith counts.

see? if it doesnt mirror the exact same context it doesnt count.

so essentially nothing vader did actually counts.

stupid clown.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Ruling out 95% of Vader's feats is the only way quan feels that he has a chance of winning.
Vader is weaker in the suit as opposed to without it. In the suit he gets wrecked far worse.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
see? if it doesnt mirror the exact same context it doesnt count.

so essentially nothing vader did actually counts.

stupid clown.

Lets discuss the actual scene so I can illuminate you. Lol at your flaming. Doesn't faze me.

'Pre-suit Vader is only allowed to Force choke Padme; that's the extent of his Force choke.' *does clown dance*

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