Khan vs. Darth Vader (pre suit)

Originally posted by quanchi112
Debate me in a battlezone then with judges. I get into people's heads and they don't like me. It has nothing to do with my competency as a debater.

Again I answered this with evidence. He has never blocked anything as wide and as powerful as the über gun. Up to you to prove he can. It's like saying the Death Star can't kill him because he blocks droid fire. Learn how to debate.

They use tk to lift the objects which is a power not physical strength. We don't see any of the Jedi lift this with their muscles. Muscles have to do with strength not telekinesis. You're a dope.

Khan breaks a skull. Provide a superior feat which has to do with muscle strength. I also provided a clip of Obi breaking a weak stranglehold.

The tactic is stated to not work on those mentally strong. He fits the bill. Jedi don't exist in his verse but he is mentally strong which the Jedi admit it won't work on them.

🙂

Evidence, dope.

So you did go full clownshoes mode on me... Just as I thought... Literally NOONE thinks you're good at debating. They all literally make fun of you for your debating style. You never admit when your wrong... misrepresent facts... exaggerate feats that suit and low ball feats that don't... I honestly have no idea why you challenge people to a BZ when you've lost virtually ever one you've ever been in. You'd think you'd challenge people to something you're good at.

So you can't say Khan would resist it because he has a sharp mind... doesn't work that way... So you have ZERO TP feats for Khan then correct? Okay well then Anakin simply TP's him with utter ease. See how that works? That is following your same line of logic of... The jei have never been shown blocking something that big.. thus you have to prove they can... Okay... Khan has never been shown resisting TP... now prove he can... I'll be waiting.

You still never answered me... Why was Luke out of breath when he was trying to list the xwing? It strains them physically.. it's not just some mental thing. If they can use TK to move objects and crush objects vastly more durable and heavier than Khan... they should have no trouble with Khan at all.

you have zero answer for as soon as the battle starts Anakin TP or TK's khan before he can react. That is something you have NEVER had an answer for. Saying Anakin won't do that right away isn't an answer. That is you trying to wiggle out of it because you have no answer for it. Anakin faster than Khan.. with faster reflexes than Khan.. and Pre cog... which all means he can TK him right from the start and Khan can do nothing about it. Saying Aankin won't isn't an answer.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
LOL You don't even know what your saying here.

So do you believe Jedi have Pre-Cog or not?

LOL Your such a troll. You clearly see the look on his face before the Clones try to shoot him. You clearly see him "seeing without even seeing them." It was clearly Pre-Cog.

But keep trolling.

So it does exist now? So Khan who has no Pre-Cog obviously stands no chance. Great 👆

It was nothing to do with power. He was emotionally screwed up which is why he made a tactically stupid move due to his arrogance. Anyone whose seen the movie knows that.

What did I agree to and when?

LOL Your loosing the plot.

LOL @ Cat having my tongue. I have so much to say to you it's not even funny. I just can't believe anyone is actually this dumb!

LOL Anakin got cut there despite his Pre-Cog Because:

1) he's fighting another Jedi. Of course Jedi can hit each other. They both have Pre-Cog! DUHHH! Anakin forsee's what Kenobi is going to do, whilst Kenobi forsees what Anakin is going to do, so it's all about whose going to be in a better position to act on their Pre-Cog! DUUUHHHHH

2) As I just pointed out he was emotionally screwed up. He had supreme arrogance at that point and was going to attempt it either way, whatever his Pre-Cog told him.

Jeez you are being super dumb. As dumb as Anakin was when he made that jump.

Anyway going down to Obi-Wan Kenobi after a 7 minute fight isn't that bad. A helluva lot Better than going down to Spock and Uhura 😂

Again it's different when it's pre-cog vs pre-cog. Again easy to get surprised by Sidious when according to Yoda himself "The Dark Side Clouds everything. IMPOSSIBLE to see the future is.." And this was THE DARK LORD HIMSELF.

Your so dumb it's not even funny. Try understanding the story please. Khan is no Sidious LOL

LO The guards looked right at him first. There's simply nothing they could do.

HAHA I'd like to see how "cellular regeneration" will help him agianst being cut up by a Lightsaber. 😂 Remember is the same guy who got KO'd by a stun gun, and Spock. You don't think Yoda can hit him with that kind of Force with his TK?

The guy sent a Senate Pod spinning and flying towards Sidious agianst Gravity. LOL

Watch again dumbo. Obi-Wan was busy fighting droids while Dooku was fighting Anakin, then the INSTANT Obi comes back into the fight to attack Dooku, Dooku effortlessly Chokes him while battling off Anakin!

Now this is Obi-Wan Kenobi, a telekinetic so powerful he sends a physical beast like General Grievous flying 50 feet crashing against a wall disarming him. Imagine what Vader (Dooku's successor) would do against a non- telekineitc and non-force user like Khan!

Khan would just flat out die.

Dooku was fighitng 2 OF THEM DUMB ASS! Lol and he was TEASING them "I've been looking forward to this!"

But later when Kenobi comes back into the fight and Dooku takes him seriously he instantly force chokes him out while still fighting off Anakin! And this is Obi-Wan Kenobi! A telekinetic so powerful he sends a physical beast like General Grievous flying 50 feet crashing against a wall disarming him. Imagine what Vader (Dooku's successor) would do against a non- telekineitc and non-force user like Khan!

Khan would just flat out die.

HAHA Your such a loser.

I accepted you Battlezone challenge a year ago and posted a few feats you had no answer to. You wana go again NO Problem. You do enjoy making a complete prat out of yourself! HAHAHAHA

I'm free on Sunday.

No point in responding to this since we will do an entire match up where I will bring you to your knees.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=595380&pagenumber=4

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So you did go full clownshoes mode on me... Just as I thought... Literally NOONE thinks you're good at debating. They all literally make fun of you for your debating style. You never admit when your wrong... misrepresent facts... exaggerate feats that suit and low ball feats that don't... I honestly have no idea why you challenge people to a BZ when you've lost virtually ever one you've ever been in. You'd think you'd challenge people to something you're good at.

So you can't say Khan would resist it because he has a sharp mind... doesn't work that way... So you have ZERO TP feats for Khan then correct? Okay well then Anakin simply TP's him with utter ease. See how that works? That is following your same line of logic of... The jei have never been shown blocking something that big.. thus you have to prove they can... Okay... Khan has never been shown resisting TP... now prove he can... I'll be waiting.

You still never answered me... Why was Luke out of breath when he was trying to list the xwing? It strains them physically.. it's not just some mental thing. If they can use TK to move objects and crush objects vastly more durable and heavier than Khan... they should have no trouble with Khan at all.

you have zero answer for as soon as the battle starts Anakin TP or TK's khan before he can react. That is something you have NEVER had an answer for. Saying Anakin won't do that right away isn't an answer. That is you trying to wiggle out of it because you have no answer for it. Anakin faster than Khan.. with faster reflexes than Khan.. and Pre cog... which all means he can TK him right from the start and Khan can do nothing about it. Saying Aankin won't isn't an answer.

That is exactly how it works. You're stupid. You can't help being stupid. Watch the Stars Wars films, idiot.

Burden is in you. Concession accepted.

It takes a toll on them but it isn't physical strength. That's why they need to use powers to stop them.. Yoda can't physically stop a pod he needs to stop it with his tk you moron. 😂

You have no proof Vader does this or that it happens immediately. Vader tries he dies. He gets shot. He literally stands there and would be an easy shot.

Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you're entering the tourney with Vader. I'm representing Khan.

No point in responding to this since we will do an entire match up where I will bring you to your knees.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=595380&pagenumber=4

Lol I'll post feats tomorrow which are beyond Khan.

Ok, Boba Fett dream boy.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Lol I'll post feats tomorrow which are beyond Khan.

Do not start this tomorrow until we have the details ironed out for the Sci Fi tournament. I posted the link on here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you're entering the tourney with Vader. I'm representing Khan.

No point in responding to this since we will do an entire match up where I will bring you to your knees.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=595380&pagenumber=4

Oops, I was getting a quote from this thread...didn't mean to hit submit.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Oops, I was getting a quote from this thread...didn't mean to hit submit.

Here's how the line goes.

Yoda/Sidious level

Dooku/Windu/Anakin level

Obi wan/maul level

Plo koon/kit Fisto level

Jedi council

Qui Gon jinn level

Ahsoka

All the Jedi order

Jango fett

Then Khan

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Here's how the line goes.

Yoda/Sidious level

Dooku/Windu/Anakin level

Obi wan/maul level

Plo koon/kit Fisto level

Jedi council

Qui Gon jinn level

Ahsoka

All the Jedi order

Jango fett

Then Khan

Khan wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based only on your bias and fanaticism. You argued against Khan before even seeing the film which proves you're biased and a hopeless cause.

Khan wins.

Irrelevant since I did see the film. Not impressed. Khan is good, but the force weilders are better.

You say that due to your own bias and stupidity.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Irrelevant since I did see the film. Not impressed. Khan is good, but the force weilders are better.

You say that due to your own bias and stupidity.

I say it based off facts and evidence.

vader takes this without needing to be near khan, if khan shoots whilst being choked vader can deflect the shot

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
vader takes this without needing to be near khan, if khan shoots whilst being choked vader can deflect the shot

why can't vader block it ?

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
why can't vader block it ?