Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Honestly man the force choke would have about as much affect on him as much as Spock's abuse and Vulcan attacks. Spock had so much trouble with him I don't seeing Anakins force choke doing that much either. He was a genetically enhanced super solider. You have to admit he could take a serious beating by another alien and refused to go down.
Spock's nerve pinch isn't like a neck choke. Neither is being punched in the face. Look at MMA as an example. Fighters can take punches to the face, but you cut the supply of blood to the brain; it's lights out.
I'm not arguing that Khan isn't a very tough individual, but he's still overall human and needs blood/oxygen to his brain.
Originally posted by Psychotron1:10 in he uses his force powers to try to get his hands back on the saber, liar.
Yes, post it.It "malfunctioned" because he was getting his ass beat. Exactly. The greatest bounty hunter and gun-slinger in the galaxy got his head chopped off by a Jedi. Super impressive.
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMZdrUx8eM
They also both beat each other up. Obi doesn't dominate him in the slightest.
Tk is used to get his weapon back not to crush the skilled opponent. Due to his skill and constant pressure Obi nearly died. Khan with his guns mows down any Jedi or Sith thus seen at this point.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Well, yeah. But it's not like his powers increased after the lava bath. Just the opposite.
That's true I read in one book (not sure if canon), that he never got to reach his full potential because of the lava accident, but then I played Force Unleashed but everyone is OP in that game.
Originally posted by Robtard
Spock's nerve pinch isn't like a neck choke. Neither is being punched in the face. Look at MMA as an example. Fighters can take punches to the face, but you cut the supply of blood to the brain; it's lights out.I'm not arguing that Khan isn't a very tough individual, but he's still overall human and needs blood/oxygen to his brain.
Look at the abuse Khan took here, metal hatch to the face, repeated Vulcan attacks, stun guns and so on.
Originally posted by quanchi112
1:10 in he uses his force powers to try to get his hands back on the saber, liar.😂
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMZdrUx8eM
They also both beat each other up. Obi doesn't dominate him in the slightest.
Tk is used to get his weapon back not to crush the skilled opponent. Due to his skill and constant pressure Obi nearly died. Khan with his guns mows down any Jedi or Sith thus seen at this point.
He doesn't use any of his powers against Jango.
Nope, Jango needed to fire a rocket, and have his clone fire at Obi-Wan just to disarm him. Then Obi-Wan literally kicked Jango out of the air, wrecked his jet pack, and sent him tumbling of the edge with another flying kick. If Obi-Wan's hands weren't tied together he would have probably snapped Jango's neck with one arm.
Yeah, except Mace and Obi-Wan. Oh, and Luke accidentally kills Boba in RotJ.
Originally posted by PsychotronHe used his powers to get his weapon back. He can't just easily crush him with tk and needs to focus on the constant pressure. That's the point.
He doesn't use any of his powers against Jango.Nope, Jango needed to fire a rocket, and have his clone fire at Obi-Wan just to disarm him. Then Obi-Wan literally kicked Jango out of the air, wrecked his jet pack, and sent him tumbling of the edge with another flying kick. If Obi-Wan's hands weren't tied together he would have probably snapped Jango's neck with one arm.
Yeah, except Mace and Obi-Wan. Oh, and Luke accidentally kills Boba in RotJ.
Jango used his weapons to disarm him. 😂
Speculation. Both hit each other and it was a back and forth with no major injuries.
Obi stalemated and Jango's equipment malfunctioned. 😂
With his equipment working he wouldn't have decapped him.
I proved you wrong. Force powers don't crush skilled opponents. Even Windu did not do so. You can't show one example in the live action films to support such a wild claim.
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Tk was used and he still was fighting for his life.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
He used his powers to get his weapon back. He can't just easily crush him with tk and needs to focus on the constant pressure. That's the point.Jango used his weapons to disarm him. 😂
Speculation. Both hit each other and it was a back and forth with no major injuries.
Obi stalemated and Jango's equipment malfunctioned. 😂
With his equipment working he wouldn't have decapped him.
I proved you wrong. Force powers don't crush skilled opponents. Even Windu did not do so. You can't show one example in the live action films to support such a wild claim.
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Tk was used and he still was fighting for his life.
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But he didn't get his weapon back. Jango only disarmed Obi because he had outside help.
There were no major injuries even though Obi-Wan was wearing only robes while Jango was wearing armor. He even had a jet pack and he still couldn't do shit to a disarmed Obi-Wan.
Nothing malfunctioned, he got his ass beat. Twice in the same film, too.
Windu didn't use his powers, because he didn't need to. Much better to chop his head off in front of his kid. Sure I can. Obi-Wan owned Grevious with the Force, Luke force chocked two Gamorians with the Force, all the people Vader owned etc. The fact is Khan has no defense against the Force.
Originally posted by PsychotronI disagree.
But he didn't get his weapon back. Jango only disarmed Obi because he had outside help.There were no major injuries even though Obi-Wan was wearing only robes while Jango was wearing armor. He even had a jet pack and he still couldn't do shit to a disarmed Obi-Wan.
Nothing malfunctioned, he got his ass beat. Twice in the same film, too.
Windu didn't use his powers, because he didn't need to. Much better to chop his head off in front of his kid. Sure I can. Obi-Wan owned Grevious with the Force, Luke force chocked two Gamorians with the Force, all the people Vader owned etc. The fact is Khan has no defense against the Force.
He almost killed him. Both walked away with minor injuries.
His jet pack malfunctioned. Quit lying.
Windu needed to close the gap which is what Obi tried doing. This backs up my point in how they fight.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree.He almost killed him. Both walked away with minor injuries.
His jet pack malfunctioned. Quit lying.
Windu needed to close the gap which is what Obi tried doing. This backs up my point in how they fight.
Who cares whether you agree? It happened.
Yeah, Kenobi almost killed Jango despite being at a complete disadvantage. And in front of his kid, too. What a loser.
Yeah. Because Obi-Wan wrecked it.
And? If Vader wants to close the gap (big if since he can just Force choke Khan) then he will. Jedi can move at superhuman speeds.
Originally posted by PsychotronSpeculation. He disarmed him on his own with his attack.
Who cares whether you agree? It happened.Yeah, Kenobi almost killed Jango despite being at a complete disadvantage. And in front of his kid, too. What a loser.
Yeah. Because Obi-Wan wrecked it.
And? If Vader wants to close the gap (big if since he can just Force choke Khan) then he will. Jedi can move at superhuman speeds.
Kenobi didn't despite having his powers. You claimed these powers make it easy yet we see otherwise. You're a loser.
No, Obi lost this encounter,
Prove it. Vader gets shot in the meantime. Quit making things up. He doesn't force choke against skilled enemies.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Speculation. He disarmed him on his own with his attack.Kenobi didn't despite having his powers. You claimed these powers make it easy yet we see otherwise. You're a loser.
No, Obi lost this encounter,
Prove it. Vader gets shot in the meantime. Quit making things up. He doesn't force choke against skilled enemies.
No, he disarmed him with help of Boba. Jango is a massive loser.
Yeah, right. I guess you forgot that kick that sent Jango over the edge.
Watch the movies. Shooting a guy with a lightsaber? I thought Khan was supposed to be smart. He force chokes people all the time.
Originally posted by PsychotronNo, when he fired the missile he disarmed him. Jedi are disarmed all the time. It is a running gag with Lucas, ignoramus.
No, he disarmed him with help of Boba. Jango is a massive loser.Yeah, right. I guess you forgot that kick that sent Jango over the edge.
Watch the movies. Shooting a guy with a lightsaber? I thought Khan was supposed to be smart. He force chokes people all the time.
And Jango's skill led him to get the upper hand. Obi failed in detaining or killing him.
Yes, we see Jango do so. When does Vader force choke someone to death in combat who is greatly skilled. People on other screens or his helpless gf doesn't really fit the bill.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, when he fired the missile he disarmed him. Jedi are disarmed all the time. It is a running gag with Lucas, ignoramus.And Jango's skill led him to get the upper hand. Obi failed in detaining or killing him.
Yes, we see Jango do so. When does Vader force choke someone to death in combat who is greatly skilled. People on other screens or his helpless gf doesn't really fit the bill.
Convenient that you're ignoring Boba shooting at Obi-Wan with the ship's cannons. If you want to bring Lucas into this, then you should know he hates Boba Fett. That's why he and Jango died like chumps.
Running away isn't gaining the upper hand. I can see how you might be confused since you like Voldemort, and he's a massive coward, but still.
Force users like Kenobi and Luke can block Vader's Force choke, but Khan can't use the Force. He's helpless.
Originally posted by PsychotronI never said Boba didn't I said he didn't disarm him. Ok and ?
Convenient that you're ignoring Boba shooting at Obi-Wan with the ship's cannons. If you want to bring Lucas into this, then you should know he hates Boba Fett. That's why he and Jango died like chumps.Running away isn't gaining the upper hand. I can see how you might be confused since you like Voldemort, and he's a massive coward, but still.
Force users like Kenobi and Luke can block Vader's Force choke, but Khan can't use the Force. He's helpless.
Obi wanted to bring him in. He didn't. Jango escaped after he rocked the girly Jedi.
Voldemort was a tyrant not a coward.
Jango didn't but he was fine. Prove it with examples, sport.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said Boba didn't I said he didn't disarm him. Ok and ?Obi wanted to bring him in. He didn't. Jango escaped after he rocked the girly Jedi.
Voldemort was a tyrant not a coward.
Jango didn't but he was fine. Prove it with examples, sport.
So you agree that Jango needed help. Good.
He escaped because he was a coward who go his ass kicked by a disarmed Obi-Wan.
Yeah, right. He shit his pants when Dumbledore showed up. And lost to a teenage boy. Some tyrant.
Because Obi-Wan didn't use his powers offensively, it's not the way of the Jedi. But Vader is a Sith.
Originally posted by PsychotronHe did not need help. He did get help but we see one on one him more than a match for Obi.
So you agree that Jango needed help. Good.He escaped because he was a coward who go his ass kicked by a disarmed Obi-Wan.
Yeah, right. He shit his pants when Dumbledore showed up. And lost to a teenage boy. Some tyrant.
Because Obi-Wan didn't use his powers offensively, it's not the way of the Jedi. But Vader is a Sith.
He escaped due to being a bounty hunter. Obi failed.
He took Dumbledore on who knew backup would be arriving soon. Dumbledore and Harry were the cowards.
Dumbledore ended up dying due to Lord Voldemort's curse. That is why he sacrificed himself to Snape.
In battle it definitely is. We see Luke do so. You are ignorant.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He did not need help. He did get help but we see one on one him more than a match for Obi.He escaped due to being a bounty hunter. Obi failed.
He took Dumbledore on who knew backup would be arriving soon. Dumbledore and Harry were the cowards.
Dumbledore ended up dying due to Lord Voldemort's curse. That is why he sacrificed himself to Snape.
In battle it definitely is. We see Luke do so. You are ignorant.
He couldn't have disarmed Kenobi without Boba. I fail to see how getting kicked off a ledge and running away is being more than a match for Obi-Wan. The fact that he beat Jango without using the Force makes Jango look like an even bigger chump.
Hunters = predators, predators don't run. Prey runs. So clearly Jango is the galaxy's worst bounty hunter.
So why did he look like he pooped his pants when Dumbledore showed up? And why did he run away? All that matters is that Voldemort wasn't strong enough to beat Dumbledore himself.
Yeah, Luke used Force choke on some guards. Just like Vader will on Khan, and there isn't a damn thing Khan can do about it.
Originally posted by PsychotronSpeculation. We see him disarm him with just one missile.
He couldn't have disarmed Kenobi without Boba. I fail to see how getting kicked off a ledge and running away is being more than a match for Obi-Wan. The fact that he beat Jango without using the Force makes Jango look like an even bigger chump.Hunters = predators, predators don't run. Prey runs. So clearly Jango is the galaxy's worst bounty hunter.
So why did he look like he pooped his pants when Dumbledore showed up? And why did he run away? All that matters is that Voldemort wasn't strong enough to beat Dumbledore himself.
Yeah, Luke used Force choke on some guards. Just like Vader will on Khan, and there isn't a damn thing Khan can do about it.
He didn't beat Jango. Obi had his weapon and the force. He used both. Quit pretending he didn't.
Jango was being smart. Obi failed in brining him in. Obi is clearly the worst Jedi in history.
If he was afraid he would have fled not told Dumbledore his intentions to kill him. Dumbledore had the most powerful wand in existence and didn't beat Voldemort. 😂
You just said Jedi don't do so. You were just proven wrong. I said show a Jedi doing so on an elite not some random guards. You're a horrible debater who destroys his own claims while I sit back in amusement.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Speculation. We see him disarm him with just one missile.He didn't beat Jango. Obi had his weapon and the force. He used both. Quit pretending he didn't.
Jango was being smart. Obi failed in brining him in. Obi is clearly the worst Jedi in history.
If he was afraid he would have fled not told Dumbledore his intentions to kill him. Dumbledore had the most powerful wand in existence and didn't beat Voldemort. 😂
You just said Jedi don't do so. You were just proven wrong. I said show a Jedi doing so on an elite not some random guards. You're a horrible debater who destroys his own claims while I sit back in amusement.
There's not speculation. Boba DID fiire his ship's lasers at Obi-Wan. Fact.
Quit pretending he wasn't at a massive disadvantage. Even though he was disarmed by Boba, and had his hands tied, he still wrecked Jango's jet pack, and kicked him of the edge like the pile of garbage that he is. Fact.
If Jango was smart he would have made sure Obi-Wan was dead, and he wouldn't have let himself be followed to their secret base. Also a fact.
Jedi don't normally do so. Doesn't mean some of them won't. Especially Luke who was skirting close to the Dark side and wasn't a full Jedi. As for owning elites with the Force? Dooku owned Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan owned Grevious, Maul owned Obi-Wan, Sidious owned Mace, Yoda owned Sidious, etc. Just like Vader will own Khan.