Punisher vs Kraven Vs Batman vs Spiderman

Punisher is after Kraven who is hunting Batman who believes that Spider Man is a villain so is in turn after trying to turn in Punisher

Who gets to who first and who wins what

Spiderman

Bats

Kraven

Spider-Man should be able to one shot everybody besides Kraven and maybe even him

Spider-Man if we go by comic rules, Punisher if we treat guns realistically

He would have to tag Spider-Man and as Punisher has athlete agility and Reflexes Spider-Man should drop him with one good punch.

Spiderman stomps.

Originally posted by golem370
He would have to tag Spider-Man and as Punisher has athlete agility and Reflexes Spider-Man should drop him with one good punch.

treated realistically, Spider-Man is probably at the very literal edge of how fast someone would need to dodge bullets, under conditions that are considerably favorable to SM.

Agreed, SM would drop Pun in a punch, but treating guns as they actually exist, Pun should have no difficulty tagging him, though the Spider Sense may give SM the edge. SM really isn't fast enough to dodge a bullet in flight, and flipping through the air is not necessarily the best way to avoid sustained rifle fire, again, if we treat guns realistically.

Spider-Man ability to move away from damage at superhuman speed is imo why Punisher wouldn't have much of a chance because as Frank is rasing is gun Spider-Man is already gone or has already k.o'ed him.

if they started in conditions favorable to SM, sure

iirc, forum rules is that they start at least 100m apart

Who drops Post Grim Hunt Kraven?

You all might want to reconsider the decision you all are making on Spiderman vs Bullets. Herc was given Spiderman powers and we were able to see how Spiderman views life through his eyes/Herc eyes. Spiderman sees bullets in slow motion.

http://m715.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/ankur2113/Herc_7_TheGroup_016.jpg.html

indeed, because bullets aren't treated close to realistically in comics

Spider-Man has few, if any, feats that would suggest he can perceive things moving sometimes many times the speed of sound as if they were in "slow-motion"

comic guns < real guns

EDIT: though it appears those are handgun bullets, the point still stands, and a rifle is likely included in standard equip for Pun

It's difficult to ignore on panel proof though. If we are able to see how Spiderman perceives bullets, then why ignore it and use the "real life" argument?

Originally posted by carver9
It's difficult to ignore on panel proof though. If we are able to see how Spiderman perceives bullets, then why ignore it and use the "real life" argument?

you must have missed my first post in this thread:

Originally posted by Oliver North
Spider-Man if we go by comic rules, Punisher if we treat guns realistically

I just think Spiderman is that fast.

... I don't think you appreciate how fast bullets are...

Its not bullet speed that I am debating its Punishers ability to get the shot off before lights out.

Originally posted by Oliver North
... I don't think you realize how fast bullets are...

Yeah, I know how fast bullets are but I also know how fast Spiderman is. We would have to ignore his everything he's done on panel to presume he isn't fast enough to dodge bullets or slap them out of the air...especially considering who he has been too fast for .