Beyonder Vs. Lucifer Morningstar & Michael Demiurgos

Started by God Butcher2 pages

Beyonder Vs. Lucifer Morningstar & Michael Demiurgos

Rules:
-Win by death or incapitation
-No prep
-Bloodlust on
-Pre-Retcon Beyonder is being used
Fight takes place in the Amalgam Universe.

Angels ftw.

God ftw. stoned

How can anyone beat Pre-Retcon Beyonder?
Surely it's spite to place any character against him.

Well any character below the supreme being of either Marvel or DC.

beyonder.

Lucifer can convince Beyonder to kill himself.

beyonder is the most powerful being besides TOAA or LT isnt he? at least in marvel?

not really, omniversal beings are above him imo.

HoM wanda destroyed the whole omniverse:

http://i.imgur.com/4JyspiD.jpg

that was in x-men die by the sword #1 which was written in 2008 now the weird thing is that the 2005 marvel handbook released the definition of the omniverse as being marvel, and other companies as well as the real world:

http://i.imgur.com/DjiO6yA.jpg?1

now we don't have to take that literally of course but it's still more impressive than anything beyonder has done.

we also musn't forget that the power of the beyonder (post retcon trans-multiversal being) is nothing compared to the life force (source of wanda's powers):

http://i.imgur.com/ZYdZVUw.jpg

for some reason i thought we disreguarded hom wanda on this forum? i was always informed of classic beyonder being right there with LT

why disregard hom wanda?
beyonder was millions of times more powerufl than MU (including LT) back then, though LT has grown more powerful since SW.

i dont know for some reason like we disregard voidtry feats with owen i just thought she was banned for some reason thats y i was asking i know beyonder was like way beyond anything but LT that i could think of so he'd shit stomp these 2

Originally posted by operator616

why disregard hom wanda?
beyonder was millions of times more powerufl than MU (including LT)
back then,

though LT has grown more powerful since SW.


Who told you the LT "grew in power?"

The LT is the LT the same LT of always.

Classic Beyonder curbstomps HOM Wanda!

Originally posted by Mr Master
Who told you the LT "grew in power?"

The LT is the LT the same LT of always.

Classic Beyonder curbstomps HOM Wanda!

at least to my understanding classic beyonder beats everything but toaa and LT am i wrong?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Angels ftw.
👆

Originally posted by Mr Master
Who told you the LT "grew in power?"

The LT is the LT the same LT of always.

Classic Beyonder curbstomps HOM Wanda!

he wasn't megaversal back then.

im pretty sure you're familiar with the scan where it is stated that LT exists in all multiverses simultaneously this was from fantastic four annual #23 which was written in 1990, before that LT operated on a multiversal scale.

how exactly? beyonder doesn't have any omniversal feat.

Bloodlust on?

Beyonder makes the two angels suffer.

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
at least to my understanding classic beyonder beats everything but toaa and LT am i wrong?

Classic Beyonder should be well above LT. He's a true supreme being. TOAA is probably his only peer.

TOAA = the representative avatars of any given writer/artist,
so, they choose to get owned or own.

Classic Beyonder is the next best thing in Marvel, in terms of all time.

Originally posted by operator616

he wasn't megaversal back then.

im pretty sure you're familiar with the scan where it is stated that LT
exists in all multiverses simultaneously this was from fantastic four
annual #23 which was written in 1990, before that LT operated on a
multiversal scale.


😐 ... The LT operated on a multiversal scale?

You do realize that was All of canon Marvel at the time?

So, the LT operated across all of Marvel, always has.

Originally posted by operator616

how exactly? beyonder doesn't have any omniversal feat.


Yea ok. Beyonder was the embodiment of his own infinity.

An infinity that when compared to the trans-infinite prime Multiverse,
was like comparing an Ocean to a drop of water.

Beyonder's power is = to MillionS of prime MultverseS"

That's where 99% of the power in Marvel is concentrated,
who gives a hoot about the rest.

Originally posted by Mr Master
TOAA = the representative avatars of any given writer/artist,
so, they choose to get owned or own.

Classic Beyonder is the next best thing in Marvel, in terms of all time.

😐 ... The LT operated on a multiversal scale?

You do realize that was All of canon Marvel at the time?

So, the LT operated across all of Marvel, always has.

Yea ok. Beyonder was the embodiment of his own infinity.

An infinity that when compared to the trans-infinite prime Multiverse,
was like comparing an Ocean to a drop of water.

Beyonder's power is = to MillionS of prime MultverseS"

That's where 99% of the power in Marvel is concentrated,
who gives a hoot about the rest.

it's pretty clear in his first appearance with strange, that he operated on a multiversal scale, not megaversal. then after the secret wars, this FF annual issue retcons LT to operating on a megaversal scale rather than multiversal.

otherwise if LT operated on a megaversal scale in SW, he would also see the multiverse as a droplet of water (since the multiverse is infinitesimal when compared to a megaverse as 1 universe is infinitesimal when compared to the multiverse)

by definition the omniverse is every possible/imaginable reality, meaning it includes every universe/multiverse/etc...that ever was, is or will be ever created including beyonder's universe (which dwarfs the multiverse) since beyonder's universe is a possible universe right? thus it's still a part of the omniverse.

in simpler words, all marvel multiverses, universes, megaverses, including beyonder's realm, etc....are still part of the whole omniverse.

Originally posted by operator616

it's pretty clear in his first appearance with strange, that he
operated on a multiversal scale, not megaversal. then after the
secret wars, this FF annual issue retcons LT to operating on a
megaversal scale rather than multiversal.

otherwise if LT operated on a megaversal scale in SW, he would
also see the multiverse as a droplet of water (since the multiverse
is infinitesimal when compared to a megaverse as 1 universe is
infinitesimal when compared to the multiverse)

by definition the omniverse is every possible/imaginable reality,
meaning it includes every universe/multiverse/etc...that ever was,
is or will be ever created including beyonder's universe (which
dwarfs the multiverse) since beyonder's universe is a possible
universe right? thus it's still a part of the omniverse.

in simpler words, all marvel multiverses, universes, megaverses,
including beyonder's realm, etc....are still part of the whole omniverse.


facepalm ... At Beyonder's Realm being part of anything but his.

I would've replied, but you're all over the place friend.
And I'm in the mood to give lessons right now, maybe later.

The LT is the LT the same LT of always.

Let me know when you got that scan of an on panel account or bio update
which even slightly suggests the LT's power was boosted or downgraded or whatever.