DC's Most Powerful Lanterns Vs Marvel's Front Line

Originally posted by Galan007
King Thor alone killed Desak in the Destroyer armor with a single throw of his hammer.
Void alone atomized Loki with a gesture.
Genis alone had a hand in destroying Eternity.
Strange alone stalemated each infinity gem individually.
Namor alone was trouncing an uber Avengers line-up(which included the likes of: Thor, Strange, Rulk, Thing, Iron Man, Iron Fist, etc.) before Wanda intervened.
Keeper alone is powerful enough to defeat a hungry Galactus, and can whimsically stop time.

Feat-wise this isn't even a close matchup. The Marvel team stomps.

This.

It isn't a good fight for the Lanterns no matter how you slice it.

Originally posted by Galan007
ONLY while directly tethering himself to child-Hal. Once that direct physical link was severed, Volthoom immediately ceased being able to cause universal damage.

...So unless child-Hal is in this thread form Volthoom to link with, then he isn't a universal force.

Child hal was just the source of the power. Volthoom attained it, that's why he had to be drained of the power before he was slain by Nekron. He had that power until it was drained. He didn't need child Hal anymore than ZH Parallax needed the central power battery after absorbing all of its power.

Not to mention the picture posted in the op is volthoom at full power. Before, Volthoom had been drained by the guardians to create the third army.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Child hal was just the source of the power. Volthoom attained it, that's why he had to be drained of the power before he was slain by Nekron.

Not to mention the picture posted in the op is volthoom at full power. Before, Volthoom had been drained by the guardians to create the third army.

a.) Volthoom only attained said power for as long as he was physically touching Hal. There is absolutely no proof that he was still a universal force after that link was severed by Sinestrallax-- in fact, Sinestrallax overwhelming Volthoom on more than one occasion should suffice as proof that he wasn't a universal force. b.)Volthoom was, essentially, the nexus point through which all emotions in the spectrum(sans life/death) flowed-- the Guardians inadvertently created him that way. That is why said energy had to be drained from him before he was killed-- it might've damaged the emotional spectrum as a whole had he not been drained.

The OP pic does not depict full-power Volthoom. It depicts Volthoom after Sinestrallax usurped the power of fear from him. The best feat that 'version' of Volthoom had was growing really tall and stomping on a few Lanterns. However, I'm assuming that we are using the most powerful version of the character(s) here-- however, linking with Hal isn't a 'tactic' Volthoom would be able to utilize in this battle, regardless.

Before you try to argue any of what I said(which I know you inevitably will, because you love Volthoom), please read the issue again. I don't want you to look silly. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
Literally none of this is accurate. I suggest reading the pertinent issue once more.

a.) Volthoom only attained said power for as long as he was physically touching Hal. There is absolutely no proof that he was still a universal force after that link was severed by Sinestrallax. b.)Volthoom was, essentially, the nexus point through which all emotions in the spectrum(sans life/death) flowed-- the Guardians inadvertently created him that way. That is why said energy had to be drained from him before he was killed-- it might've damaged the emotional spectrum as a whole had he not been drained.

The OP pic does not depict full-power Volthoom. It depicts Volthoom after Sinestrallax usurped the power of fear from him. The best feat that 'version' of Volthoom had was growing really tall and stomping on a few no-name Lanterns.

Before you try to argue any of what I said(which I know you inevitably will, because you love Volthoom), please read the issue again. I don't want you to look silly. 🙂

I will go back and read it again but if I look "silly" then, hell, I look silly. It's what I gathered from when I read the issue, if I'm wrong then I'm wrong. Doesn't bother me any. People can think what they want. I'm here to discuss comics cause I love them, not to have an unblimished debate record lol.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Child hal was just the source of the power. Volthoom attained it, that's why he had to be drained of the power before he was slain by Nekron. He had that power until it was drained. He didn't need child Hal anymore than ZH Parallax needed the central power battery after absorbing all of its power.

Not to mention the picture posted in the op is volthoom at full power. Before, Volthoom had been drained by the guardians to create the third army.

Yeah, I'm using him at his peak.

Originally posted by Odekahn
I will go back and read it again but if I look "silly" then, hell, I look silly. It's what I gathered from when I read the issue, if I'm wrong then I'm wrong. Doesn't bother me any. People can think what they want. I'm here to discuss comics cause I love them, not to have an unblimished debate record lol.

RESPEK! 👆

Oh and actually I think volthoom is kind of cheesy. I just thought the battle was lopsided.

Imo, he was one of the worst 'major threats' DC's come up with in a long time.

I thought he was cooler than Mandrakk. I mainly liked his look.

LOL he wasn't even a threat

Originally posted by xJLxKing
LOL he wasn't even a threat

Even at half power, he was toying with the likes of Kyle (WL), Atrocitus, Larfleeze, etc... I think it was Atrocitus who snapped his neck and he just snapped it back. He was a threat. Not on the level of Mandrakk or someone Multiversal, but he was one to the GL mythos.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Yeah, I'm using him at his peak.

Well there we go. Then what matters is he WAS a universal threat at his peak.

^ Only while physically linked with Hal. And considering Hal is not in this thread, then it is literally impossible for Volthoom to attain said power.

But even if the rules of this thread are being changed now, in hopes of swaying the favor to the DC side(which doesn't surprise me, given the thread's creator), then it still doesn't matter. For the brief moment Volthoom held 'universal power', he didn't do anything of note with it. Kyle commented that he felt 'history unraveling'. So what? Briefly unraveling history=/=an offensive battle feat. Volthoom did not kill so much as a single Lantern with said power.

...Dunno why you guys have such a hard-on for him..?

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Only while physically linked with Hal. And considering Hal is not in this thread, then it is literally impossible for Volthoom to attain said power.

But even if the rules of this thread are being changed now, in hopes of swaying the favor to the DC side(which doesn't surprise me, given the thread's creator), then it still doesn't matter. For the brief moment Volthoom held 'universal power', he didn't do anything of note with it. Kyle commented that he felt 'history unraveling'. So what? Briefly unraveling history=/=an offensive battle feat. Volthoom did not kill so much as a single Lantern with said power.

...Dunno why you guys have such a hard-on for him..?

I don't really like him that much, but that doesn't mean I'm going to not give credit where it's due. Kyle said that to let us know what was happening, that may not be a combat feat but its still a feat and showing of universal power.

And he didn't HAVE to use kid Hal, he could have used the CPB like he originally went to OA to do.

Originally posted by Odekahn
And he didn't HAVE to use kid Hal, he could have used the CPB like he originally went to OA to do.

And like I said earlier: the fact that Sinestrallax was able to overwhelm Volthoom on more than one occasion should suffice as proof that Volthoom was no longer a universal power... Unless you believe Sinestrallax =/> universal. srsly

Originally posted by Golgo13
King Thor isn't going to stomp Alan Scott with the full power of the Starheart. Let's not go crazy.

thank u i was gonna say i made a thread king thor vs ion and i was told its spite against thor so this isnt that bad of a rage stomp but lanterns does win a slight majority... the lanterns r incredibly strong volthoom and ion both were said to be at omnipotence level several times and hal as parllax is no joke ... the question i have i dont think void can be killed and genesis was some kind of outrageous strong and if bfr is on strange could potentially win it real quick...?

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
thank u i was gonna say i made a thread king thor vs ion and i was told its spite against thor so this isnt that bad of a rage stomp but lanterns does win a slight majority... the lanterns r incredibly strong volthoom and ion both were said to be at omnipotence level several times and hal as parllax is no joke ... the question i have i dont think void can be killed and genesis was some kind of outrageous strong and if bfr is on strange could potentially win it real quick...?

Classic Ion, the Ion used in your thread, is a different beast altogether than Ion 2, which is the Ion being used here.

King Thor versus Classic Ion is most definitely spite against Thor. Ion hasn't been written at those levels for years.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Classic Ion, the Ion used in your thread, is a different beast altogether than Ion 2, which is the Ion being used here.

King Thor versus Classic Ion is most definitely spite against Thor. Ion hasn't been written at those levels for years.

the ion i used was kyle not classic thats maybe y i got confused

im also fresh with gl stuff i literally bought my first set of comics last week so im learning

Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
the ion i used was kyle not classic thats maybe y i got confused

Kyle was Classic Ion.

He also became Ion again (Ion 2), though he was significantly far less powerful than his first incarnation.

Since then, the Ion entity has been pretty failtastic (see Sodam Yat for reference).