Meh. No matter what happens, if Kratos dies he is just going to come back for more. It's what he does. Death has no hold on him at all, having escaped the Underworld 3 times, minimum. Not to mention that in the GoW world, Hades is the God of Death (it would seem, or you would have fought the real one). He technically killed Death.
Lightning timing itself is not the focus. It's just an example. Kratos has other supposed reaction feats where they can be inferred to be a lot greater than his prior movement speed.
In Ascension however, Kratos goes through a time slow focused on him by the Uroboros Amulet, and even then he is still more than fast enough to fight Pollux and Castor. We're given a frame for how potent the time slow is when Kratos uses the amulet to slow incoming giant tentacles (moving anywhere from 100-300 meters per/sec by a rough guesstimate) to a crawl or perhaps stopped altogether. That's fighting through a clearly potent time dilation on Kratos' part, and is good practical speed feat.
Whether its a lightning timing level or not is not really my concern (it easily could be depending on the exact percentage of slow down that happened when Kratos used it), but the point is more towards that it shows that Kratos has very good speed (well above peak human), and thus the reaction feats that get attributed to him are now a lot more believable.
And yes, before Ascension I denounced the lightning timing altogether. I don't remember exact threads but surely there was at least one thread in Games Vs where I did so, and another thread in Comic Vs.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
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How the heck can someone, for example, be stated to be a lightning timer or some such, yet can't even frigging run faster than peak human speed? Such is commonly stated for characters like Link. Even worse, how can characters like Thanos be claimed as having FTL reflexes yet their actual running speed would be something Captain America could deal with?Do these guys magically have arms that move thousands to millions of times faster than their legs?
Going back to this, if real life experience has taught me anything, it's that closing a defensive gap is not the same as covering a traveling distance. Evading requires a quick thought process as well. physical capability is not the main, or even primary factor. Just thought I'd throw this out there. But anyways, has anyone else noticed how this is somehow no longer about the battle?!
Originally posted by Sacred 117
Going back to this, if real life experience has taught me anything, it's that closing a defensive gap is not the same as covering a traveling distance. Evading requires a quick thought process as well. physical capability is not the main, or even primary factor. Just thought I'd throw this out there. But anyways, has anyone else noticed how this is somehow no longer about the battle?!
I'm not sure I quite understand what the point of this post was or what it is meant to be addressing--or rather what you think you're addressing. Read what I was talking about again.
Reflexes are half based on how fast you physically move and how fast your mind perceives a stimulus.
Your reflexes and physical speed are thus closely tied. You cannot react fast without being fast on some level. At any rate, your reflexes e.g. say your punching speed, will never be immensely greater than your running speed. At best, you might be able to punch twice as fast as you can run. But you can take a step forward in the same time it takes you to throw said punch.
Well its not much to go on but I need to bring this up. He-Mans durability HAS to increase with his strength. Maybe only by allowed minimum but it has to. In order for his body to withstand the strain of any of his physical feats his durability has to increase enough to withstand it. While its not an on panel feat it still should have some consideration.
Anyways #2 would probably be spite for He-Man given the Gem of Anwat Gar. The one that grants absolute invincibility. Unless Kratos figures out how to deactivate the Gem.
I've argued for the strength feats as durability feats in the past as well for He-Man, that's the realistic thing to do by implications, but it could also be argued that the Magic of Greyskull is able to guard him in some way while he's doing those feats.
Kinda like how the Speed force protects the Flash family while they are running fast, since technically their low durability should mean that their skin is flayed off from the sheer speed.
He-Man's explicit durability feats seem to be kinda underwhelming for what you'd expect for his strength class.
Anyway, what level of durability did the Gem of Anwat Gar provide? I mean by feats that is.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
I've argued for the strength feats as durability feats in the past as well for He-Man, that's the realistic thing to do by implications, but it could also be argued that the Magic of Greyskull is able to guard him in some way while he's doing those feats.Kinda like how the Speed force protects the Flash family while they are running fast, since technically their low durability should mean that their skin is flayed off from the sheer speed.
He-Man's explicit durability feats seem to be kinda underwhelming for what you'd expect for his strength class.
Anyway, what level of durability did the Gem of Anwat Gar provide? I mean by feats that is.
I also thought of it that way and it's likely thats possible but it has never been stated. Of course neither has it been stated on the flip either. So they are both only speculation but imo it should be considered.
There were two Stones....Skeletor had one and He-man had one. Once activated neither one of them could be hurt and they both gave it their all. He-Man resorted to out smarting Skeletor because he realized fighting was pointless but He-Man kicked Skeletor across the battlefield, They both were jumping a good 100-200 feet into the air, Skeletor knocked He-Man down through the planet and into lava which had no affect on He-Man at all, Skeletor threw a statues head the size of the top of a mountain with extreme ease. He-Man tanked a blast from Sekletor that had an exploding DBZ style to it, and they didn't even manage to slow one another down. At the end He-Man decided they were way too powerful for anyone to posses so he destroyed the stones. The fighting had a DBZ feel to it the way they were knocking eachother around.
Also They are called the Legacy Stones. Anwat Gar was the place they were at.