WWH vs Morg

Originally posted by psycho gundam
plot prevented him from going worldbreaker and killing the entire world's populace...

don't respond btw

It won't happen in this fight.

He'll burn out, and die.

you don't even know how to read.

worldbreaker is the same hulk, just able to use his power without the need to hold back for the sake of the planet and life, holding back isn't an issue in the battle arena and morg isn't innocent

he doesn't even need to go full on WB, the hulk that fought arm'cheddon would be a big enough challenge

Originally posted by ODG

World War Hulk (Worldbreaker) vs Arm'Chedon, from Incredible Hulk #632:
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So... 'WWH/The Hulk who fought Sentry' being used in battles actually means he can transform into WB at any time and 'WWH' is just a useless title?

yes. same hulk just with the safety on. he was called "worldbreaker" prior to WWH anyway. WWH isn't even a character's name, it's the name of the arc in which green scar/worldbreaker appeared in

eat a dick

So Leo probably should have said "This is the Hulk who found out that Meik was the one who set off the bomb, and got so mad he transformed for the first time into Worldbreaker version"?

what leo said was fine. the hulk that fought sentry could be grey, savage, or geen scar, but the title says "WWH" and that's the one that people keep calling green scar/worldbreaker.

worldbreaker was the name of the one in the sakaarian prophesy from planet hulk, hulk gaining that name in said arc and the power boost from the climax of said arc, the same power that was stolen from him at the end of WWH leaving him as savage hulk, and the same power that was reclaimed in IH #611 that later lead to the HOTM arc

That's all well and good but this is WWH without the trigger that transformed him into green aura Hulk for the first time.

And quite frankly, all this "WWH turns into WB" is no different than assuming Normal Goku actually means SS4 Goku. They might be able to do it, but that's not the point.
It's a powerup in the back of his pocket, but it's doubtful he'd use it even in comics in half these threads.

the power up is a choice based upon the conditions of the battlefield and who he is fighting. pretty sure fighting goddamn morg in a featureless battle arena with just them occupying it wouldn't stop him

there is a reason worldbreaker hulk is also called "battle board hulk". he's tailor made for this type of debate:

"The Hulk that fought Sentry" = Worldbreaker Hulk. You learn something new everyday.

Concession accepted that Worldbreaker-less Hulk loses though

it's all there in the first scan. he was always the worldbreaker, but even in manhattan during the WWH arc he was holding back.

if hulk has to hold back in an environment hand picked for him to go ape on someone just to make morg possibly win, then who looks worse?

my intent was to disallow the unleashed wbh. sub in morg for sentry. if he were allowed full access to his powers, obviously hulk wins. i still think he wins accessing just the power he did against sentry, but i think it's uber close.

In title only. It's not like he knew he had some hidden form until Miek told him of his betrayal. And after he transformed he didn't move at all, so there's evidence of the holding back. Still doesn't mean much.

He's not really holding back though. I have the same problems with Goku "holding back" against Vegeta. He's just not powering himself up.
It's not like it hinders his normal form. He can still fight to the maximum amount he can muster in his normal form.

But still, explain to me how "The Hulk Sentry fought" means he can freely transform into WB willy nilly in the thread? Might as well just say Superman flies to the sun in every thread.

not the same at all.

it's more like a dam holding back a large river. the dam releases a little of it all the time but if the dam were to be broken then the entire river will spill out. "the broken dam" was miek admitting what he did. hulk's power was always there since the explosion was absorbed in part by hulk, that elevated his power.

as for him changing modes:

goes from savage to diet-WB

banner to diet-WB

banner just held the rage in check till he doesn't have to or can't anymore

Originally posted by leonidas
my intent was to disallow the unleashed wbh. sub in morg for sentry. if he were allowed full access to his powers, obviously hulk wins. i still think he wins accessing just the power he did against sentry, but i think it's uber close.

Anyway, he transformed into WB like 5 times. The first time he needed a push. This would have been before the first time.

nope to both assertions

even when miek said what he said, banner/hulk told the heroes to stop him before he breaks the world. miek made it harder for him to hold back his rage, not made him mad to power himself up

Because he got even more pissed off. And then he transformed for the first time into WB

the instant he gets his power back he's in diet worldbreaker mode

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you don't even know how to read.

worldbreaker is the same hulk, just able to use his power without the need to hold back for the sake of the planet and life, holding back isn't an issue in the battle arena and morg isn't innocent

he doesn't even need to go full on WB, the hulk that fought arm'cheddon would be a big enough challenge

So true.

The rules say when WWH is in the title we're supposed to use WWH feats only and not assume he will just up and go WBH. If it's green scar that includes all feats from WWH + planet hulk + whatever else can be related to GS without him going WBH.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you don't even know how to read.

worldbreaker is the same hulk, just able to use his power without the need to hold back for the sake of the planet and life, holding back isn't an issue in the battle arena and morg isn't innocent

he doesn't even need to go full on WB, the hulk that fought arm'cheddon would be a big enough challenge

I'm sorry, but it seems like you're a bit confused buddy. Don't worry about it though, tempers run high when you're debating and things won't go your way.

I take it Leo's clarification helped bring you up to speed? You're aware of which Hulk and what feats are being used for the purpose of this fight?