WWH vs Morg

he was under performing on purpose, that's what i'm telling you. no sun-dip or any of that, just his true power curtailed until the conditions were right for him to use more strength. i posted him literally seething with energy referencing the past events, twice.

this is like a dad wrestling his toddler and then using that as the basis for the father's fighting ability even if the dad says he didn't want to punch his child through the window. this is what you want to adhere to. i can't see past this

he was just as powerful as he was in the climax of HOTM as he was at the end of planet hulk. understand this

Originally posted by curryman
I'm sorry, but it seems like you're a bit confused buddy. Don't worry about it though, tempers run high when you're debating and things won't go your way.

I take it Leo's clarification helped bring you up to speed? You're aware of which Hulk and what feats are being used for the purpose of this fight?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he was just as powerful as he was in the climax of HOTM as he was at the end of planet hulk. understand this

however he said his intent was to replace sentry with morg for that instance. well, does that also mean that the fight is in manhattan where there are people around, or is it in the default battledome that it should be in per the OP? he specified waay later and it's still vague

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he was under performing on purpose, that's what i'm telling you. no sun-dip or any of that, just his true power curtailed until the conditions were right for him to use more strength. i posted him literally seething with energy referencing the past events, twice.

this is like a dad wrestling his toddler and then using that as the basis for the father's fighting ability even if the dad says he didn't want to punch his child through the window. this is what you want to adhere to. i can't see past this

Only, somehow, he spent all of his energy. At least until he got a fresh recharge from the plot.

Yours is a stupid argument and here's why.

Pak's nonsensical idea that Hulk is always holding back, even when he's getting beaten, pissed on and anally penetrated by whoever's giving him his weekly dose, does not go very well with forum fights. You can always go ahead and claim that "Bruce was holding back intentionally" and that he was ACTUALLY capable of going Worldbreaker.

Leo specifically stated that this was the Hulk from the World War Hulk arc. So we use the Hulk confined to that arc. I know you feel that every single Hulk could go worldbreaker if he just "stopped holding back", but he didn't. World War Hulk arc. World War Hulk limits. Later retcons do not matter.

it's all there in the scans. go read them

Originally posted by psycho gundam
it's all there in the scans. go read them

I'll try again, so that even the anime-crowd can get it.

Since not every single Hulk fight on the forum can be Worldbreaker Hulk vs whoever, we go by the limits put on him by the confines of that story. Yes. Bruce is always holding back and could go worldbreaker no matter when or what, that's great.

for the purpose of forum fights however, he can obviously not be holding back and ready to unless the worldbreaker in every single incarnation.

i understand, but leo didn't specify till pages after, and simply saying WWH doesn't mean shit as the hulk in that was the same one that is being erroneously separated with a misnomer

er, pretty sure that everyone knows if i/we say wwh, it's the hulk from that arc--it's also been pointed out that is has become a forum rule besides. and, semantics aside, i was pretty specific when i said the hulk that fought sentry. not sure i'm seeing vagueness anywhere.... manhattan or ring wouldn't matter as hulk is restricted to feats his feats before taking that famous step which i think is the delineating point for most.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i understand, but leo didn't specify till pages after, and simply saying WWH doesn't mean shit as the hulk in that was the same one that is being erroneously separated with a misnomer

Okay.

Well now that Leo's cleared up the "vagueness" of saying "WWH that fought Sentry", let us continue with the thread 🙂

leo cleared up the issue in this thread, not the issue of what is the truth. truth is he said the war in manhattan (WWH) and the incident in the west coast (fighting arm'cheddon/bi-beast/wendigo) were instances of him under performing, and that in a battleboard style fight (dark dimension) he could be himself, the last and most powerful display was without miek to piss him off even.

i'll stop just to let the thread live, but everyone is wrong lol

"WWH" who fought sentry (but is actually way stronger but he couldn't beat sentry with ease cause it would kill everything on earth by accident) wins. 🙂

Meh, I just use the Green Scar designation if we basically mean Pak Hulk (or just use that, hell). It's a lot easier than using WWH (which most people do recognize as Pak/Green Scar Hulk, though some try to limit his showings/feats to the specific arc of World War Hulk).

To that end, under Pak (like him or not), Hulk was always holding back for fear of others safety. Completely unleashed ala HotM, he is another being alltogether than his "holding back" self. I'm not even a Hulk fan and am more of a "Thorbag", but I recognize how Pak both portrayed and intended Hulk to be powerwise.

Hulk as he was specifically portrayed against Sentry wins. A Hulk portrayed as higher tiered than that one probably WTFstomps Morg.

Crazy thing about it is, in the WWH arc, Hulk went WBH mode. So saying using Hulk in the WWH arc could also mean using WBH since WBH appeared during the end of the arc.

Morg is a monster he should be a tough fight for WWH

If he fights WWH like Ares fought WWH with his Axe...he would get his face crushed in...probably two paneled. He needs his versatility to make this a decent fight.

what versatility? morg is a space brick with lasers..rarely. he's really powerful but he doesn't have a wide array of powers

Morg is also significantly > Ares to be fair to the character.

"Holding back" normal mindset Green Scar would be a good fight for Morg.

A Hulk who decides to end him does just that, imho.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Morg is also significantly > Ares to be fair to the character.

"Holding back" normal mindset Green Scar would be a good fight for Morg.

A Hulk who decides to end him does just that, imho.

Do you think Indestructible Hulk could beat him?

Originally posted by carver9
Do you think Indestructible Hulk could beat him?

Probably after a good fight, yeah.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Probably after a good fight, yeah.

I always thought the PIS part was how Thor would forget his hammer and its capabilities, but it turns out that the PIS part was Hulk not completely demolishing him right away 😆

Most writers, including the current Hulk writer, Mark Waid, feel that Thor and Hulk will be a competitive fight that could go either way.

Under Pak, a fully unleashed Hulk is absurdly powerful, laughably so. The guy basically went so far out of his way to showcase Hulk as being capable of shooting past his peers isn't unreal. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he frequented battle boards or respect threads to fuel some of his stories.

Now, Pak is about to handle DC's biggest icons. I can only imagine how a lot of people will curiously applaud Pak for feat whoring the World's Finest to death when they previously balked or dismissed his run on Hulk. In the same token, I can also see hardcore Hulk fanatics crying foul for some of the crap he could potentially pen Superman doing.

Honestly, I'm half tempted to start taking bets.

@Curry...

What fight are you talking about.?