'Palpatine killed Master Windu's companions and battled the Jedi Master, who soon gained the upper hand. Just as Windu was ready to slay Palpatine, Anakin Skywalker intervened and cut off Windu's lightsaber hand. This gave Palpatine the opportunity to blast Windu with Force lightning, sending him out a window to his death.'
Parity my patoot!
Originally posted by Nephthys
'Palpatine killed Master Windu's companions and battled the Jedi Master, [b]who soon gained the upper hand. Just as Windu was ready to slay Palpatine, Anakin Skywalker intervened and cut off Windu's lightsaber hand. This gave Palpatine the opportunity to blast Windu with Force lightning, sending him out a window to his death.'Parity my patoot! [/B]
I see LeGenD is spoon feeding you your arguments now, which explains why they've gone from bad to worse.
Anyway, nothing in this except contradicts the film, the novel, the various supplement material released between 2005 and today, and my argument.
That Windu won the duel clearly means he gained the upper hand. (In fact, I'm amused that you had to read that excerpt in order to draw that conclusion.) That doesn't mean Sidious isn't a comparable duelist.
Its not his arguments, merely a quote he found that I'd never seen before.
That he swiftly gained the upper hand does not suggest parity bro. 😬
Also do you suppose it claiming that 'Windu was ready to slay Palpatine,' means that Sidious really was weakened to the point where he couldn't fight back? mmm
Stover's Lucas-approved-and-edited novel describes their conflict as a potentially eternal "impasse."
Moreover, we see in the film that Palpatine had the initial advantage—"enough to Force the mighty Mace Windu back" (The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia)—despite the fact that Windu had help from three other "celebrated swordsmen."
This, in conjunction with the fact that we know that Palpatine is not just a "high end master of multiple forms" but is, in fact, a master of all 7 (per The Clone Wars Episode Guide), there's even less reason to think there is a considerable gap (if there's one at all) between them.
And, lastly, not only do we have Lucas's words in the commentary that Palpatine is pretending to be weak, DK's Beware the Sith outright confirms that "[Palpatine] pretends he is too weak to defend himself and begs Anakin to save him."
You'll need to do better, Neph.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I see LeGenD is spoon feeding you your arguments now, which explains why they've gone from bad to worse.Anyway, nothing in this except contradicts the film, the novel, the various supplement material released between 2005 and today, and my argument.
That Windu won the duel clearly means he gained the upper hand. (In fact, I'm amused that you had to read that excerpt in order to draw that conclusion.) That doesn't mean Sidious isn't a comparable duelist.
Even as he mulled over this new development, a familiar snap-hiss sounded to his right and a glowing blue-white blade sprang to life in a dark corner of the hangar.
Instantly in a fighting crouch, the apprentice brought his own blade up to block the blow, teeth bared in a delighted snarl.
He and his adversary held the pose for a bare second, lightsabers locked across their chests. The apprentice quickly sized up the being who had attacked him. Human male, fair-haired and bearded, with calm, serious eyes and a firm set to his jaw. Anyone within the living memory of the Clone Wars--or possessing free access to the Jedi Archives--would have recognized him completely.
Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi, High General of the Republic and master of the Soresu form of deadly lightsaber combat, slid his deadly blade down to the right, ducking at the same time to avoid the inevitable countersweep. Sparks flew as the apprentice Force-leapt high into the air and landed with perfect agility on top of a stack of crates. He reached out with the Force with his cupped left hand and swept a metal tool kit across the hangar bay, toward his opponent's head. Kenobi ducked and leapt up after him, deflecting a flurry of blows that would have left an ordinary man in piece, then responding with a sweep of his own that sent the apprentice dodging backward, jumping from one stack to another in temporary retreat.
So the duel proceeded for almost a minute, with Kenobi and the apprentice dancing like acrobatic Gados from stack to stack, lightsabers spinning and clashing, racks and tools turned into temporary weapons as they hurled themselves from one to the other. The racket was enormous, and the threat very real. Kenobi slashed a new rip in the apprentice's combat suit with a move that would've taken his arm off at the elbow had he not moved in time. Twice he felt rather than saw the Jedi's blade sweep over his head.
The apprentice wasn't afraid of dying. His only fear was of failing his Master, and that fear he put to good use. The dark side rushed through him, made him strong and resilient. He felt more powerful than he ever had before.
Vader was sending him to hunt one of his old foes--and how better to warm up for a mission than killing the man who had once been the most famous Jedi in the galaxy.
Alive with murderous intent, the apprentice rushed forward, his red blade swinging, to finish the job.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Stover's Lucas-approved-and-edited novel describes their conflict as a potentially eternal "impasse."Moreover, we see in the film that Palpatine had the initial advantage—"enough to Force the mighty Mace Windu back" (The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia)—despite the fact that Windu had help from three other "celebrated swordsmen."
This, in conjunction with the fact that we know that Palpatine is not just a "high end master of multiple forms" but is, in fact, a master of all 7 (per The Clone Wars Episode Guide), there's even less reason to think there is a considerable gap (if there's one at all) between them.
And, lastly, not only do we have Lucas's words in the commentary that Palpatine is pretending to be weak, DK's Beware the Sith outright confirms that "[Palpatine] pretends he is too weak to defend himself and begs Anakin to save him."
You'll need to do better, Neph.