Beast vs Classic Kingpin

First to k.o

Kp imho

Beast.

Especially if he goes for the eyes.

Kangpin

Current Kigpin is back to his classic level. That is if there was ever a difference.

Beast.

there was never any diffrence to his strength. he is a really strong human. not superhuman. there is no way he should beat a superhumanly strong and agile and extensively combat trained Beast.

If only Kp had feats of doing just that....

spiderman always held back or fear of killing a regular human. no way kingpin could havebeat him if he was fighting full out.

I hear that a lot but, no offence, its bullsh!t Kp was depicted as stronger there is no real arguments for all the bearhugs and general overpowering...

Wasn't Spidey a lot weaker back in the classic days?

beast has the powerset to win, but is such an incompetent fighter he might lose. his personality holds him back, as ST pointed out: he's all heart no gut, which is fine for the character, he shouldn't be wolverine, but makes him a crap fighter.

Originally posted by pym-ftw

If only [Classic Kingpin] had feats of beat[ing] a strong, agile and extensively combat trained [superhero] ...

He does.

Don't despair!

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Source: Amazing Spider-Man #60, Volume 1
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Originally posted by pym-ftw
I hear that a lot but, no offence, its bullsh!t Kp was depicted as stronger there is no real arguments for all the bearhugs and general overpowering...

in the old days he was a nerd of the highest order. i think he actually just liked the bearhugs.....

Kingpin

Originally posted by 753
beast has the powerset to win, but is such an incompetent fighter he might lose. his personality holds him back, as ST pointed out: he's all heart no gut, which is fine for the character, he shouldn't be wolverine, but makes him a crap fighter.

this...but if he goes feral like he did with danger it could be a problem

Beast is an exceptional fighter.

His style actually compliments his powers, as opposed to just being some generic martial art that just about every peak human under the sun uses.

Kingpin is outclassed in every single area.

Kp is also an exceptional fighter, and easily the more skilled

Originally posted by curryman
Beast is an exceptional fighter.

Beast has the potential to be great, but said potential is untapped, likely because McCoy doesn't give in to his feral instincts. I don't think he's "bad", but he's not as skilled as Fisk.