Jay Garrick Vs Quicksilver

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Jay Garrick Vs Quicksilver

Current Quicksilver, Pre-Flashpoint Jay.

Jay.

Qs.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Jay.

How fast is current QS?

Supposedly, he's just now at lightspeed.

Did Jay ever get past this?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=14008600

If not, QS stomps and stomps badly.

The Speed Force returned, yes.

Jay can also do more things with speed outside of just being fast, like the other Flashes can.

I understand the speed force returning but even with it he had issues going light speed. Remember the Black Adam showing when they were running around the world to build energy?

Originally posted by carver9
I understand the speed force returning but even with it he had issues going light speed. Remember the Black Adam showing when they were running around the world to build energy?

Yes, I remember that showing. Which, iirc, was well before Infinite Crisis and the Speed Force returning.

Even if Pietro is habitually faster than Jay - I don't think he is - Jay has a considerable experience edge as well as abilities involving applications of speed not limited to just being fast in of itself.

The fact that Jay was able to engage in combat with Black Adam at all is a crazy feat for the old man.

Jay was using the speed force during that instance...I think we are talking about two different scenes.

Yes, Jay fighting Adam is a different instance than Jay using Adam's speed to boost himself.

Jay can go lightspeed, he just chooses not to. He also has casual nanosecond showings.

Thor's got casual lightspeed-pie blocking showings.

How come you won't credit those?

Jay has also come close to join the speed force in his fight with Rival.

He can officially go to lightspeed.

Nanosecond showing.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/FlashV2229page15.jpg

Also I've only seen wally do this, i.e be in two places at once. Jay is in New York and San Francisco at once.

Hard to argue against the speed force in a fight between speedsters.

Originally posted by carver9
I understand the speed force returning but even with it he had issues going light speed. Remember the Black Adam showing when they were running around the world to build energy?

If you mean the one where Jay stole Black Adam's speed after he'd left BA in his dust because the fastest BA could go was half the speed of light and Jay went FTL and then broke the time barrier and went to ancient Egypt?? If that's the one you mean that is actually a high end feat. Jay is the only speedster in DCU besides Wally capable of speed stealing. he is also still FTL he just can't maintain it for extended periods without risking a heart attack ( all about maintaining his heart rate to s set number of thousands bets per second). When Johns left JSA just a few years ago and the entire JSA was surprise attacked by a team of villains after a reword on the JSA's heads only Jay and Stargirl were left standing. JAy disappeared from the view of all villains present ( including a couple of light speed villains who didn't even see him leave) and returned in their view almost as soon as his image disappeared with Dr Fate from the other side of the country. He disappeared from the view of people who speed blitzed Powergirl. That fast enough for you???

Also as soon as he steals quicksilver's speed ( which he's one of the only three characters in comics can do - Wally, Jay, Juggs) he stomps

Originally posted by beatboks
If you mean the one where Jay stole Black Adam's speed after he'd left BA in his dust because the fastest BA could go was half the speed of light and Jay went FTL and then broke the time barrier and went to ancient Egypt?? If that's the one you mean that is actually a high end feat. Jay is the only speedster in DCU besides Wally capable of speed stealing. he is also still FTL he just can't maintain it for extended periods without risking a heart attack ( all about maintaining his heart rate to s set number of thousands bets per second). When Johns left JSA just a few years ago and the entire JSA was surprise attacked by a team of villains after a reword on the JSA's heads only Jay and Stargirl were left standing. JAy disappeared from the view of all villains present ( including a couple of light speed villains who didn't even see him leave) and returned in their view almost as soon as his image disappeared with Dr Fate from the other side of the country. He disappeared from the view of people who speed blitzed Powergirl. That fast enough for you???

Also as soon as he steals quicksilver's speed ( which he's one of the only three characters in comics can do - Wally, Jay, Juggs) he stomps


Do you have the scans of that?

Carver, the important part of this thread is that Jay beats the Hulk.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Do you have the scans of that?

Which one the speed steal from BA or the Get Dr Fate help one. I should have both ( I've got both issues so I can scan them if I don't)