Wonder Woman Vs Thor · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Golgo13 Senior Member

Originally posted by Philosophía
Roughly even. If Diana's 'stronger than Hercules' gets brought up, she wins.

This.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So basically, you believe they're exact equals...but Thor's high end feats which clearly display him able to go to levels that Hercules doesn't count and wouldn't change a thing. Makes sense.

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abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So basically, you believe they're exact equals...but Thor's high end feats which clearly display him able to go to levels that Hercules doesn't count and wouldn't change a thing. Makes sense.

Relative showings matter concerning peers. I can show feats that makes superman a lot stronger than captain marvel too, y'know. Also hercules tanked a punch from pre-retcon beyonder. Clearly he's far above Thor, right?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by abhilegend
Relative showings matter concerning peers. I can show feats that makes superman a lot stronger than captain marvel too, y'know. Also hercules tanked a punch from pre-retcon beyonder. Clearly he's far above Thor, right?

Thor is more powerful than Hercules.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Thor wins, clearly noticeably stronger.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Relative showings matter concerning peers. I can show feats that makes superman a lot stronger than captain marvel too, y'know. Also hercules tanked a punch from pre-retcon beyonder. Clearly he's far above Thor, right?

So I take it you believe that Captain Marvel is the exact equal of Superman since they are always peers or equals when in direct contest everything else be damned? That's an interesting stance based on some of your previous posts that I've read.

Speaking of relative showings, how about Thor stalemating Celestial Armor Gilgamesh (A significant power-up) in the same arc that regular Gilgamesh stalemated Hercules?

Or that Destroyer story where they both took him on and Thor looked better. There was also the Armak story where Thor stalemated him IIRC while Hercules was completely outclassed. Tbf to Hercules, he wasn't 100% against Armak because he fought the Destroyer or something previously (Don't remember the exact details as I don't have my comics with me).

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also that was a different planet and all they did was break a plateau. It was also a joke sub-story.

Does that somehow change the feat or the narration? It's not a cereal box comic or ad page you know.

Damborgson King of the Damboys

Originally posted by abhilegend

Herc has broken out of thor's grip before too. Its nothing special.

It was a counter to the Blood Oath scan. Yes it is. Breaking out of a disadvantageous position with someone who has roughly equal strength to you is always impressive to normal human beings.

also, when has Hercules broken a grip like that from Thor?

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Depends on how they break out of the hold. It's pretty clear that Thor used sheer strength in the scan you posted but sometimes character's use skill to outmaneuver their opponent such as flipping them over etc.

Damborgson King of the Damboys

They've had some pretty intense fights in their day, lot of throwing tossing, etc so I'm sure Hercules has outmaneuvered Thor before but never just overpowered him like Thor did there that I know of. Which is what it was, he broke past Hercules' strength.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor wins, clearly noticeably stronger.

Prove it. Any feat rivaling a weakened diana helping to move earth?
So I take it you believe that Captain Marvel is the exact equal of Superman since they are always peers or equals when in direct contest everything else be damned? That's an interesting stance based on some of your previous posts that I've read.
Not exactly. Superman was proven to be stronger in POS 46 than cap. That has never happened to thor and herc.
Speaking of relative showings, how about Thor stalemating Celestial Armor Gilgamesh (A significant power-up) in the same arc that regular Gilgamesh stalemated Hercules?
I have to see the scans for that.
Or that Destroyer story where they both took him on and Thor looked better.
In strength? I don't think so.

There was also the Armak story where Thor stalemated him IIRC while Hercules was completely outclassed. Tbf to Hercules, he wasn't 100% against Armak because he fought the Destroyer or something previously (Don't remember the exact details as I don't have my comics with me).

Herc was weary since he pulled the manhattan island the same day.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Does that somehow change the feat or the narration? It's not a cereal box comic or ad page you know.

Its a joke story and the narration wasn't meant to be taken seriously. All they did on panel was break a plateau.

Originally posted by Damborgson
It was a counter to the Blood Oath scan. Yes it is. Breaking out of a disadvantageous position with someone who has roughly equal strength to you is always impressive to normal human beings.
also, when has Hercules broken a grip like that from Thor?

In one of his fights with thor. Let me check my comics.

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Originally posted by abhilegend
Relative showings matter concerning peers. I can show feats that makes superman a lot stronger than captain marvel too, y'know. Also hercules tanked a punch from pre-retcon beyonder. Clearly he's far above Thor, right?

Yes, I'm sure you could post some selective scans that suits you.

Thor has gone above and beyond Hercules in the same arcs or comics that they appear in.

Also lol @ bringing Superman up in another thread where the example used has nothing to do with the characters involved.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Prove it. Any feat rivaling a weakened diana helping to move earth?

Strength wise? Him moving the World Engine while such a shadow of himself is his greatest feat.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not exactly. Superman was proven to be stronger in POS 46 than cap. That has never happened to thor and herc.

Scans?

Originally posted by abhilegend
I have to see the scans for that.

Only scan I have of the Hercules/Gilgamesh fight but they are still stalemating after Odin ends the war (Don't have that scan):
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero13.jpg

Thor faced a much stronger version of Gilgamesh and was his equal.

Originally posted by abhilegend
In strength? I don't think so.

Hercules vs. Destroyer:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/49/92987895.jpg/
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer17.jpg.html

Thor came off as practically as strong as the Destroyer while Hercules was completely manhandled and was tossed around (I think I'm missing one scan where the Destroyer tosses Hercules after catching his punch but whatever).

Originally posted by abhilegend
Herc was weary since he pulled the manhattan island the same day.

Like I said, he wasn't a 100% but Armak completely no-sold him and left him flat on his ass with one blow compared to Thor. Even if Hercules at half strength it's still an impressive comparison.

Here Thor beats the shit out of Ulik (Amped a Thousand Times or whatever) when pissed:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsUlik71.jpg
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsUlik72.jpg.html
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsUlik73.jpg.html
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsUlik74.jpg.html
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsUlik75.jpg.html

Hercules was completely wrecked, albeit he was depressed:
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsUlik69.jpg.html
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsUlik70.jpg.html

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Strength wise? Him moving the World Engine while such a shadow of himself is his greatest feat.

Wrong feat.

Him withstanding and then casually shrugging off the weight of half a planet is what rivals(possibly even surpasses) Diana's shared feat.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes, I'm sure you could post some selective scans that suits you.
Thor has gone above and beyond Hercules in the same arcs or comics that they appear in.
Also lol @ bringing Superman up in another thread where the example used has nothing to do with the characters involved.

Selective scans?

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/9503/thorvsherculesjimannual.jpg

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3903/thorvsherculesmt22204cr.jpg

http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/1289/thorvsherculesmt22202.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7313/thorvsherculesmt40054.jpg

In strength? No.

What? Touched a nerve mentioning cap and superman, didn't I?

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

There was also their very first fight where Thor mentions he was holding back against Hercules and he could end it in one hit (Take that as you will):
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsHercules15.jpg.html
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsHercules16.jpg.html

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its a joke story and the narration wasn't meant to be taken seriously. All they did on panel was break a plateau.

Are you a psychic now that also happens to determine what does and doesn't count as canon?

If on panel-narration doesn't count, then we better get rid of a lot of feats.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Wrong feat.
Him withstanding and then casually shrugging off the weight of half a planet is what rivals(possibly even surpasses) Diana's shared feat.

I guess yea.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Selective scans?
http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/9503/thorvsherculesjimannual.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3903/thorvsherculesmt22204cr.jpg
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/1289/thorvsherculesmt22202.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7313/thorvsherculesmt40054.jpg
In strength? No.
What? Touched a nerve mentioning cap and superman, didn't I?

No one is denying that Hercules and Thor are equal like 99% of the time but there is that 1% of the time that Thor seems to have a physically higher threshold then Hercules that he can push himself too.

Also, why are even discussing Hercules in a Wonder Woman thread? Only an idiot thinks that Diana being stronger then DC Hercules translates into her being stronger then Marvel Hercules and then by extension Thor.

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Originally posted by abhilegend
Selective scans?
http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/9503/thorvsherculesjimannual.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3903/thorvsherculesmt22204cr.jpg
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/1289/thorvsherculesmt22202.jpg
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7313/thorvsherculesmt40054.jpg
In strength? No.
What? Touched a nerve mentioning cap and superman, didn't I?

Those scans depict them as equals in strength, yes. There are also examples where Thor can and has operate on a level than Hercules can't, a hell of a lot more than Hercules being better than Thor at anything. If you (or more importantly, Marvel) had to choose who ultimately edges out the other, the answer is Thor.

The only nerve you've touched is your incessant need to drag the S shield in pretty much every thread ever to make irrelevant off topic examples. You've cemented your gimmick more than enough on KMC. There's no reason to keep driving the point home.

JakeTheBank Return of the King

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Also, why are even discussing Hercules in a Wonder Woman thread? Only an idiot thinks that Diana being stronger then DC Hercules translates into her being stronger then Marvel Hercules and then by extension Thor.

Also, this.