Wonder Woman Vs Thor

Started by abhilegend48 pages

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Strength wise? Him moving the World Engine while such a shadow of himself is his greatest feat.
Unquantifiable. Diana along with superman slowing down spectre shits on that.

Scans?
Cap stacking stamina of atlas on strength of hercules stalemated superman. One of two stalemates they have in strength comparison.

Thor vs. Hero:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero5.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero6.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero7.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero8.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero10.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero11.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero12.jpg

Only scan I have of the Hercules/Gilgamesh fight but they are still stalemating after Odin ends the war (Don't have that scan):
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsHero13.jpg

Thor faced a much stronger version of Gilgamesh and was his equal.

Not much evidence there.

Thor vs. Destroyer:
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer17.jpg.html
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer18.jpg.html
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer19.jpg.html
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer20.jpg.html
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer21.jpg.html
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer22.jpg.html
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer23.jpg.html
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer24.jpg.html
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer25.jpg.html
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer26.jpg.html

Hercules vs. Destroyer:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/49/92987895.jpg/
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsDestroyer17.jpg.html

Thor came off as practically as strong as the Destroyer while Hercules was completely manhandled and was tossed around (I think I'm missing one scan where the Destroyer tosses Hercules after catching his punch but whatever).

Too short of a fight with hercules and herc didn't know the destroyer of what it was.

Like I said, he wasn't a 100% but Armak completely no-sold him and left him flat on his ass with one blow compared to Thor. Even if Hercules at half strength it's still an impressive comparison.
Not applicable.

Here Thor beats the shit out of Ulik (Amped a Thousand Times or whatever) when pissed:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsUlik71.jpg
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsUlik72.jpg.html
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsUlik73.jpg.html
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsUlik74.jpg.html
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsUlik75.jpg.html

Hercules was completely wrecked, albeit he was depressed:
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsUlik69.jpg.html
http://s779.photobucket.com/user/R-O-G/media/Thor/ThorvsUlik70.jpg.html

Not applicable.

Was kinda wondering where the Herc vs Thor comparison was coming from...

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Was kinda wondering where the Herc vs Thor comparison was coming from...

From Herc vs Diana, which itself comes from a crossover...

Originally posted by abhilegend

In one of his fights with thor.

I would hope so...

Originally posted by abhilegend
Let me check my comics.

Ok, I'll wait.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
From Herc vs Diana, which itself comes from a crossover...

That's not allowed in forums, tho. Otherwise, Surfer completely dominate-pwning Orion would be viable, too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cap stacking stamina of atlas on strength of hercules stalemated superman. One of two stalemates they have in strength comparison.

I never understood how this feat demeans Cap or somehow makes him weaker than Superman. In all their conflicts, however brief, Cap has never explicitly stacked Atlas' strength, not his stamina, with Hercules' own. Hell, he's never ever been portrayed as being able to call upon Atlas' strength before then nor has he done it since. If anything, it seems like Ordway was using stamina and strength interchangeably vocabulary wise.

And if he wasn't and Cap does possess the ability to use Atlas' strength in addition to his stamina...so? It just means that Cap using the totality of the Power of Shazam is able to match Superman's strength directly.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
There was also their very first fight where Thor mentions he was holding back against Hercules and he could end it in one hit (Take that as you will):
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsHercules15.jpg.html
http://s989.photobucket.com/user/RageOfOlympus/media/Thor/ThorvsHercules16.jpg.html

Are you a psychic now that also happens to determine what does and doesn't count as canon?

If on panel-narration doesn't count, then we better get rid of a lot of feats.


Hyperbolish and jokish narration don't count.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No one is denying that Hercules and Thor are equal like 99% of the time but there is that 1% of the time that Thor seems to have a physically higher threshold then Hercules that he can push himself too.

Also, why are even discussing Hercules in a Wonder Woman thread? Only an idiot thinks that Diana being stronger then DC Hercules translates into her being stronger then Marvel Hercules and then by extension Thor.


Like in Blood Oath?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Those scans depict them as equals in strength, yes. There are also examples where Thor can and has operate on a level than Hercules can't, a hell of a lot more than Hercules being better than Thor at anything. If you (or more importantly, Marvel) had to choose who ultimately edges out the other, the answer is Thor.

The only nerve you've touched is your incessant need to drag the S shield in pretty much every thread ever to make irrelevant off topic examples. You've cemented your gimmick more than enough on KMC. There's no reason to keep driving the point home.


Blood Oath disagrees.

Also LOL @ this bitching. Superman/Cap have the same dynamic as Thor/Herc. One has lots of feats that others don't but they are showed to be peers if not equals whenever they meet. that's why I brought up superman AND cap. Your insecurities are showing Jake.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Unquantifiable. Diana along with superman slowing down spectre shits on that.

How do you quantify Diana helping moving the Earth with 3 other people, especially since one of the guys has a notable strength advantage over her?

Well Hercules and Thor were generating enough force to knock a planet out of orbit and Thor resisted Kang dropping the weight of half a world on him as well.

I don't really see how.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Cap stacking stamina of atlas on strength of hercules stalemated superman. One of two stalemates they have in strength comparison.

Not much evidence there.

Too short of a fight with hercules and herc didn't know the destroyer of what it was.

Not applicable.

Not applicable.

😂

None of the evidence I posted counts but Captain Marvel using the Stamina of Atlas, one of his inherit powers, is evidence that Superman is stronger. I'm sure Superman is also faster if he doesn't use the Speed of Mercury.

That was more then sufficient evidence indicating Thor's potential superiority to the Olympian. If you don't want to accept it, that's your problem.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It just means that Cap using the totality of the Power of Shazam is able to match Superman's strength directly.
👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hyperbolish and jokish narration don't count.
Like in Blood Oath?
Blood Oath disagrees.

Also LOL @ this bitching. Superman/Cap have the same dynamic as Thor/Herc. One has lots of feats that others don't but they are showed to be peers if not equals whenever they meet. that's why I brought up superman AND cap. Your insecurities are showing Jake.

Who are you to deny on panel narration? I could see if this was Thor or Hercules boasting while hopped up on mead, but it's not. The intent was clearly there. It being humorous doesn't detract from the feat and basically writing it off as it not counting is ridiculous.

Yes, Blood Oath is pretty much the only time where Hercules is ever portrayed as being slightly superior Thor. Thor's got multiple instances where in direct comparison, he outperforms Hercules' or gets the better of him.

Superman and Captain Marvel have nothing to do with this discussion, at least not how you're mentioning them. If you were citing feats of theirs involving Wonder Woman, the character you're actively championing against Thor in this original thread idea you've cooked up, okay. But you're not and you're basically just bringing up Superman because...well, because he's Superman and you're you. Not sure how I'm insecure as I don't constantly drag my favorite characters into threads they're not mentioned in, a part of, or use them in examples that hold no real merit to the topic at hand.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I never understood how this feat demeans Cap or somehow makes him weaker than Superman. In all their conflicts, however brief, Cap has never explicitly stacked Atlas' strength, not his stamina, with Hercules' own. Hell, he's never ever been portrayed as being able to call upon Atlas' strength before then nor has he done it since. If anything, it seems like Ordway was using stamina and strength interchangeably vocabulary wise.

And if he wasn't and Cap does possess the ability to use Atlas' strength in addition to his stamina...so? It just means that Cap using the totality of the Power of Shazam is able to match Superman's strength directly.


He has only one other stalemate with superman and that was off panel. Cap amping his strength was equal to superman in strength and that absolutely means whenever he doesn't uses it, he is weaker than superman.

Ordway also wrote an all out superman killing cap, flash, diana, hal, supergirl and booster gold as shown by Kismet as a direct future if superman let go of his humanity, superman restraining blaze while she choked adam with one hand. He absolutely wrote cap as weaker than superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hyperbolish and jokish narration don't count.

Says you? The arrogance of this guy. Is this some inherit trait that most Superman fans posses?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Like in Blood Oath?

I thought you understood the difference between strength and skill?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
That's not allowed in forums, tho. Otherwise, Surfer completely dominate-pwning Orion would be viable, too.

It's also being based off the idea that Marvel Herc==DC Herc, despite the notable lack of evidence to prove such a thing...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well Hercules and Thor were generating enough force to knock a planet out of orbit and Thor resisted Kang dropping the weight of half a world on him as well.

These feats are way more quantifiable than Diana's feat as well, since in the DC earth case, one of her helpers is supposed to be considerably stronger than her, while the other used his shapeshifting powers to generate additional leverage and muscle for helping move the Earth.

On the contrary, exactly half the effort of the armwrestling feat is attributable to Thor, while the Cobalt force feat speaks for itself. Clearly quantifiable, unlike Diana's case.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He has only one other stalemate with superman and that was off panel. Cap amping his strength was equal to superman in strength and that absolutely means whenever he doesn't uses it, he is weaker than superman.

Ordway also wrote an all out superman killing cap, flash, diana, hal, supergirl and booster gold as shown by Kismet as a direct future if superman let go of his humanity, superman restraining blaze while she choked adam with one hand. He absolutely wrote cap as weaker than superman.

He's stalemated Superman in arm wrestling when people who putting bets on them. He's also held his own against Superman more times than not.

And if he amped his strength due to the nature of his powers and how they work in unison with one another...it means what, exactly? He's not praying to the gods for extra power or flying to the source of his power or powering up like a DBZ character. In that singular scan in which Cap can apparently "stack" his attributes and even call upon secondary attributes such as Atlas' strength instead of his stamina, he can match Superman. He did it inherently and without any hoopla. Not sure how that's a strike against Cap at all if he can instantly will or focus himself to be as strong as Superman if he wants to.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ordway also wrote an all out superman killing cap, flash, diana, hal, supergirl and booster gold as shown by Kismet as a direct future if superman let go of his humanity,

I like how my scans are inapplicable but he mentions a possible future as evidence. And Kismet even says she doesn't deal in probability:
http://s68.photobucket.com/user/panthergod/media/Superman/AdventuresOfSuperman494p20.jpg.html

But whatever, Superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
superman restraining blaze while she choked adam with one hand.

Is Blaze not able to completely mess/weaken the abilities of the Marvel?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How do you quantify Diana helping moving the Earth with 3 other people, especially since one of the guys has a notable strength advantage over her?
She was weakened there. Even if she only moved 1/3 of earth, its a hell of a feat.

Well Hercules and Thor were generating enough force to knock a planet out of orbit and Thor resisted Kang dropping the weight of half a world on him as well.
Hyperbole. That's comparable to diana moving 1/3 of earth while weakened. I don't see how that makes thor stronger.

I don't really see how.
Haha.

😂

None of the evidence I posted counts but Captain Marvel using the Stamina of Atlas, one of his inherit powers, is evidence that Superman is stronger. I'm sure Superman is also faster if he doesn't use the Speed of Mercury.

That was more then sufficient evidence indicating Thor's potential superiority to the Olympian. If you don't want to accept it, that's your problem.

So let me get this straight, cap using stamina of atlas to amp his strength stalemates superman but he isn't weaker without amping? What kind of logic is that? If cap stalemates superman's speed by amping his speed with say power of zeus, he is absolutely slower without amping. I don't even know who would deny that besides thorbags.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It's also being based off the idea that Marvel Herc==DC Herc, despite the notable lack of evidence to prove such a thing...

W/c is silly and the whole line of thought shud just be abandoned.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Says you? The arrogance of this guy. Is this some inherit trait that most Superman fans posses?

He thinks he can apply what he thinks counts and dismiss what he doesn't like.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Who are you to deny on panel narration? I could see if this was Thor or Hercules boasting while hopped up on mead, but it's not. The intent was clearly there. It being humorous doesn't detract from the feat and basically writing it off as it not counting is ridiculous.

Yes, Blood Oath is pretty much the only time where Hercules is ever portrayed as being slightly superior Thor. Thor's got multiple instances where in direct comparison, he outperforms Hercules' or gets the better of him.

Superman and Captain Marvel have nothing to do with this discussion, at least not how you're mentioning them. If you were citing feats of theirs involving Wonder Woman, the character you're actively championing against Thor in this original thread idea you've cooked up, okay. But you're not and you're basically just bringing up Superman because...well, because he's Superman and you're you. Not sure how I'm insecure as I don't constantly drag my favorite characters into threads they're not mentioned in, a part of, or use them in examples that hold no real merit to the topic at hand.


Hyperbolish and Jokish narration don't count. I can post narration saying that no force could stop one of superman's punches, doesn't mean its true.

Show examples then. Your words are not proof.

Whatever jake. Drop another essay, see if I care.