Originally posted by -Pr-👆
Team wins, most likely, though the ease depends on Superman's mental state.
I don't know what Barry is up to in his ongoing, so I can't comment on him being able to do something to someone on Superman's level besides annoy him. All I know is that all it takes for Superman to put him down is to tag him once, and he has shown he can do this.
Diana on the other hand often gets lip-service as Superman's peer. Featwise she cannot compete though. Her lasso is not the one hit Wonder it used to be. She should remove her bracers from the get go if she wants to stand a chance IMO. Better yet she should just flash him and spread her legs. Sure win right there.
Still I think as a team they might do it...somehow. Maybe I'm just being generous.
Going by story and hype the duo would win easily enough because WW is a close peer of Superman in most areas, and Flash is the fastest with the ability to annoy + disrupt + speed force dump.
Going by feats Superman wins comfortably, although they will make him work for it if their team-work is perfect.
if you are just buying it individually I would not bother unless you really liked Barry. The early issues are quite good regardless, but not so much lately. I order all the 52 comics in a bundle and get a bit of a discount.
Barry can vibrate somewhat, do the whole speed force tornado thing, and mostly that is it. He has standard flash feats but less so than pre-flashpoint. Nothing special.
Originally posted by chipguy_okay👆 Thanks I prefer Wally, but Barry is cool.
if you are just buying it individually I would not bother unless you really liked Barry. The early issues are quite good regardless, but not so much lately. I order all the 52 comics in a bundle and get a bit of a discount.Barry can vibrate somewhat, do the whole speed force tornado thing, and mostly that is it. He has standard flash feats but less so than pre-flashpoint. Nothing special.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
In JLA she has broken Hal Jordan's bubble shield with a kick and had a shared feat of holding back a massive tsunami flood with a cruiser. Those 2 are the first to come to mind. She might have more.
Diana kicked Superman and gave him a bloody lip, proving that her normal level of force is enough to both affect and damage him physically.
Diana knocked out DCnU Kara (aka 52 Supergirl) despite Kara using her (usually) winning re-charge maneuver, with a power tackle/dive to the ground. Kara was completely overwhelmed when the fight got serious.
Diana beat the goddess Artemis after getting pissed and removing her bracelets, as alluded to before.
Artemis's brother Apollo treated her with quite a bit of respect after THAT point, though, before, when her true power was restrained by those bracers, Apollo was talking down to her and throwing her a beating.
Diana is definitely capable of performing at a higher level than she typically shows.
As for Lantern constructs, though, far more impressive than the quoted kick Zack describes is the breaking of a second construct later in that same fight.
She more or less flexed herself free in that instance ...
Originally posted by Zack Fair
In JLA she has broken Hal Jordan's bubble shield with a kick and had a shared feat of holding back a massive tsunami flood with a cruiser. Those 2 are the first to come to mind. She might have more.
Diana kicked Superman and gave him a bloody lip, proving that her normal level of force is enough to both affect and damage him physically.
Diana knocked out DCnU Kara (aka 52 Supergirl) despite Kara using her (usually) winning re-charge maneuver, with a power tackle/dive to the ground. Kara was completely overwhelmed when the fight got serious.
Diana beat the goddess Artemis after getting pissed and removing her bracelets, as alluded to before.
Artemis's brother Apollo treated her with quite a bit of respect after THAT point, though, before, when her true power was restrained by those bracers, Apollo was talking down to her and throwing her a beating.
Diana is definitely capable of performing at a higher level than she typically shows.
As for Lantern constructs, though, far more impressive than the quoted kick Zack describes is the breaking of a second construct later in that same fight.
She more or less flexed herself free in that instance ...
Originally posted by bluewaterriderYeah Diana is certainly capable of kicking into higher gear. And she has shown she can make Superman feel her strikes.
Diana kicked Superman and gave him a bloody lip, proving that her normal level of force is enough to both affect and damage him physically.Diana knocked out DCnU Kara (aka 52 Supergirl) despite Kara using her (usually) winning re-charge maneuver, with a power tackle/dive to the ground. Kara was completely overwhelmed when the fight got serious.
Diana beat the goddess Artemis after getting pissed and removing her bracelets, as alluded to before.
Artemis's brother Apollo treated her with quite a bit of respect after THAT point, though, before, when her true power was restrained by those bracers, Apollo was talking down to her and throwing her a beating.
Diana is definitely capable of performing at a higher level than she typically shows.
Originally posted by bluewaterrideri don't remember the second instance, but fine by me. I have no problem believing that is the case. 👆
As for Lantern constructs, though, far more impressive than the quoted kick Zack describes is the breaking of a second construct later in that same fight.She more or less [b]flexed
herself free in that instance ... [/B]