Originally posted by EmperorSidious2So you lied. You're in my pocket, boy. You need to back your claim he tk's the weapons away. We see Yoda was unable to dodge Sheev's lightning which took two seconds so your claim isn't supported.
I will when I've been beaten. If it's evidence than yoda wins. You still haven't refuted what khan is going to do when loses his weapons. You still haven't answered how he is going to resist being ragdolled. Yoda can easily dodge Khans blast due to force perception and force speed, he can also take khans guns away or make him shoot Himself. You still haven't answered what khan is going to do if yoda just breaks out with these force powers. The polls and evidence say yoda wins.
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Khan guns him down.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you lied. You're in my pocket, boy. You need to back your claim he tk's the weapons away. We see Yoda was unable to dodge Sheev's lightning which took two seconds so your claim isn't supported.😂
Khan guns him down.
I'm in no ones pocket. It's called yoda uses the force on his weapons and takes them away. Again is khan not Sidious. Well if that's the case than he was able to successfully take anything Dooku threw at him and he was in the exact same situation with Sidious. Then we also see in the clone wars and he evaded the tank blast which we all know are very fast lasers as they are able to cross long distances in very short time frames. Agaisnt how are any of those detracting from my claim of saying that yoda can simply use the force to do something to khans weapons? 🙂
Based on? And why can't yoda avoid it in your view?
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2They had three seconds to fire and didn't. That's when they had weak Yoda but we're too inept to finish him off.
Again can't say he was at their mercy when he clearly showed he was Abel to evade their strikes no matter what and then went on to destroy all of them. 🙂
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Khan is greater than Sheev. He's smarter, stronger, and designed far more powerful weapons than Sheev ever has. He didn't evade the blast because they had three seconds and failed to act.
I'm in no ones pocket. It's called yoda uses the force on his weapons and takes them away. Again is khan not Sidious. Well if that's the case than he was able to successfully take anything Dooku threw at him and he was in the exact same situation with Sidious. Then we also see in the clone wars and he evaded the tank blast which we all know are very fast lasers as they are able to cross long distances in very short time frames. Agaisnt how are any of those detracting from my claim of saying that yoda can simply use the force to do something to khans weapons? 🙂Based on? And why can't yoda avoid it in your view?
You'd have to back it up with feats. You can't. What skilled gun user has Yoda disarmed ?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan is greater than Sheev. He's smarter, stronger, and designed far more powerful weapons than Sheev ever has. He didn't evade the blast because they had three seconds and failed to act.You'd have to back it up with feats. You can't. What skilled gun user has Yoda disarmed ?
That is your opinion as I could easily argue that Palptine si smarter and stronger as he has the force and has a great control over it. Sheev has only ever needed to make lightsabers. He has however come up,or had a hand in some pretty massive designs that involved the empire. However how does making better weapons on the individual level prove anything when yoda or palpatine can easily take them away. Again we see when they fired he evaded it showing that they could have shot it at any given time whether it had been 5 minutes later, 10 minutes later, heck, even an hour later and he still would have dodged it.
Yoda has the force and we have seen him levitate objects with force, stop people from moving, destroyed units of droids, and much more. So with that I think the force knowing what it does for this instance doesn't really need any feats to prove that it can take objects away. Are you sure that I can't?
Originally posted by quanchi112
They had three seconds to fire and didn't. That's when they had weak Yoda but we're too inept to finish him off.
Those three seconds don't mean anything because he showed he dodged when they fired. They didn't have him at their mercy as he evaded them. They never had him because he showed he could dodge it and then weak yoda took on around 15-30 battle droids and 3 tanks by himself. So hardly someone I would call weak.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Sheev is dumb as hell as he put himself in a situation to get tossed to his death. Force is overrated. Baseless speculation.
That is your opinion as I could easily argue that Palptine si smarter and stronger as he has the force and has a great control over it. Sheev has only ever needed to make lightsabers. He has however come up,or had a hand in some pretty massive designs that involved the empire. However how does making better weapons on the individual level prove anything when yoda or palpatine can easily take them away. Again we see when they fired he evaded it showing that they could have shot it at any given time whether it had been 5 minutes later, 10 minutes later, heck, even an hour later and he still would have dodged it.Yoda has the force and we have seen him levitate objects with force, stop people from moving, destroyed units of droids, and much more. So with that I think the force knowing what it does for this instance doesn't really need any feats to prove that it can take objects away. Are you sure that I can't?
So ? Khan shoots him faster than Sheev did. /thread
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He moved before they fired. He isn't weak just weak when compared to Khan.
Those three seconds don't mean anything because he showed he dodged when they fired. They didn't have him at their mercy as he evaded them. They never had him because he showed he could dodge it and then weak yoda took on around 15-30 battle droids and 3 tanks by himself. So hardly someone I would call weak.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Sheev is dumb as hell as he put himself in a situation to get tossed to his death. Force is overrated. Baseless speculation.So ? Khan shoots him faster than Sheev did. /thread
So someone who has manipulated an entire war, an entire Jedi council for 13 years, Dooku, Anakin, maul, mastered many to all dark side powers, rose through the political ladder, become emperor of an entire galaxy, mastered multiple styles of lightsaber combat, and much more you call that stupid? You confuse stupidity with carelessness.
All these show yoda can just take the weapon away. He could also do what he did against Ventress in TCW or just levitate Khan and ragdoll him. I belive this is the something you can't refute so I belive it's now proven yoda wins.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2He manipulated behind the scenes. That's why he was able to do so. He was cunning but rather stupid when it came to Luke. It's easy to manipulate when people don't know your true agenda. He was a politician but a beggar when he lost in combat to Windu. Khan all on his lonesome took down Admiral Marcus who was at thee head of galactic power or forces.
So someone who has manipulated an entire war, an entire Jedi council for 13 years, Dooku, Anakin, maul, mastered many to all dark side powers, rose through the political ladder, become emperor of an entire galaxy, mastered multiple styles of lightsaber combat, and much more you call that stupid? You confuse stupidity with carelessness.All these show yoda can just take the weapon away. He could also do what he did against Ventress in TCW or just levitate Khan and ragdoll him. I belive this is the something you can't refute so I belive it's now proven yoda wins.
Khan doesn't have to get close and can fire a weapon so the comparison to Ventress fails on as many levels are there to your madness.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He manipulated behind the scenes. That's why he was able to do so. He was cunning but rather stupid when it came to Luke. It's easy to manipulate when people don't know your true agenda. He was a politician but a beggar when he lost in combat to Windu. Khan all on his lonesome took down Admiral Marcus who was at thee head of galactic power or forces.Khan doesn't have to get close and can fire a weapon so the comparison to Ventress fails on as many levels are there to your madness.
So he manipulated an entire war. Behind the scenes or not what's the difference. He manipulated it. No he was just a little careless and really he wasn't even that careless. His father turned under similar circumstances so why wouldn't his son? That's the whole point of manipulating is that people don't know your agenda. Duh. Again under the confirmed time frame he was asking weakness. Well this admiral is not the emperor of the galactic empire. Palpatine IMO is greater than khan by a long shot and so to is yoda so I don't really see why you continue to debate as you clearly aren't proving anything just ranting.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Due to his opposition and Machiavellian persona. Behind the scenes makes it all the more relevant.
So he manipulated an entire war. Behind the scenes or not what's the difference. He manipulated it. No he was just a little careless and really he wasn't even that careless. His father turned under similar circumstances so why wouldn't his son? That's the whole point of manipulating is that people don't know your agenda. Duh. Again under the confirmed time frame he was asking weakness. Well this admiral is not the emperor of the galactic empire. Palpatine IMO is greater than khan by a long shot and so to is yoda so I don't really see why you continue to debate as you clearly aren't proving anything just ranting.
Luke isn't his father. He made a critical error he didn't even have to make. Khan manipulated Kirk despite them knowing his agenda. That's called manipulation, boy. A title doesn't mean anything, honestly. One augment against galactic power. Sheev needed a galactic army and still got hurled to his death by his own guy. 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to his opposition and Machiavellian persona. Behind the scenes makes it all the more relevant.Luke isn't his father. He made a critical error he didn't even have to make. Khan manipulated Kirk despite them knowing his agenda. That's called manipulation, boy. A title doesn't mean anything, honestly. One augment against galactic power. Sheev needed a galactic army and still got hurled to his death by his own guy. 😂
He manipulated the war. Why does it matter if it was behind the scenes or not? He manipulated it.
He's his offspring thus would share similar traits and as seen he does. You have no I sea what manipulation is. Sidious has manipulated entire wars, conflicts, intelligent beings. He did manipulate Luke into joining the dark side for a brief period of time. So? Again you confuse needing with other emotions and feelings. He is capable and has done a lot of damage without armies.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2It is a lot easier to manipulate when no one knows what you truly stand for that's the point.
He manipulated the war. Why does it matter if it was behind the scenes or not? He manipulated it.He's his offspring thus would share similar traits and as seen he does. You have no I sea what manipulation is. Sidious has manipulated entire wars, conflicts, intelligent beings. He did manipulate Luke into joining the dark side for a brief period of time. So? Again you confuse needing with other emotions and feelings. He is capable and has done a lot of damage without armies.
So what ? Luke was stronger than his weak, pansy daddy. They grew up with different experiences. He got Luke angry but ultimately failed I his mission to turn him. Sheev was good behind the scenes and with galactic power. When he didn't have that he was begging at Windu's feet. 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
It is a lot easier to manipulate when no one knows what you truly stand for that's the point.So what ? Luke was stronger than his weak, pansy daddy. They grew up with different experiences. He got Luke angry but ultimately failed I his mission to turn him. Sheev was good behind the scenes and with galactic power. When he didn't have that he was begging at Windu's feet. 😂
So? He still manipulated it and manipulated it well.
Oh well. He still sub came to the dark side for a brief period of time. Yes but under similar circumstances. Anakin lost his mother, Luke lost his aunt and uncle who were similar parent figures, Luke then lost Obi wan right in front of him, he then lost yoda in front him, both had their hands cut off, both fought to protect the ones they loved. Similar circumstances.
Are you sure he needs an army? He had killed 3 other Jedi masters in 10 seconds, defeated Darth maul in a very short time frame, had Dooku and Darth Vader both extremely powerful force wielders scared to fight him one on one and wouldn't try and usurp him without an apprentice, dueled yoda to a stalemate, had windu running for the hills and really could have killed during the fight if he wished, manipulating Anakin, defeating savage oppress, killing Darth Plagueis, manipulating Dooku, manipulating Anakin and the rest of the Jedi council, mastering the dark side and the way of the lightsaber, manipulating the Seperatist council and General Grevious. He didn't need an army for any of those things. 😂 I win.