Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

Originally posted by Surtur
It can be reality though. Here we can do an example: Superman has better feats than Khan. This is not mere perception, but reality. The reality which is these movies, the reality which is what we see happen in them. It doesn't mean Superman is a real person though. It's definitely not a matter of opinion to say he is more powerful than Khan(and that he has better hair).

But Christ Almighty you and your obsession with words. If you've consistently shown Yoda can't win then why did so many people vote against you?

Let me guess: they are just jealous of you?

Bias and their minds are already made up. Are you blind to this ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You aren't proving he does that before Khan fires. You need evidence not a baseless assumption scripting the entire fight based off your biased and long faced views. You do not debate based off the evidence whereas I have posted Khan reacting and it's faster than Yoda in his fights. Look at the fights not just powers and you imagining things playing out, dumbass.

So I accept your concession again, as we accepted on the first few pages of this thread. Khan can do nothing about being TK frozen right away or having his gun TK'd... He also has zero answer for being TP'd and no feats to illustrate he's immune. Concession was already noted before, but it has been noted again.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So I accept your concession again, as we accepted on the first few pages of this thread. Khan can do nothing about being TK frozen right away or having his gun TK'd... He also has zero answer for being TP'd and no feats to illustrate he's immune. Concession was already noted before, but it has been noted again.

He doesn't react faster, not even close. Post a clip of Khan's where he evades attacks as fast as Yoda has here... Notice all the flipping he's doing while still striking and still blocking. Just avoiding or blocking one light saber swing takes faster reactions than waiting for a guy to raise his gun.. aim and fire at you. He was avoiding multiple strikes in this clip. Now, either show Khan reacting faster than this or I accept your concession again. Also notice in the next clip. Windu blocking multiple laser fire while falling down like 6 stories. Yet was still able to block fire. Notice inferior Jedi to yoda blocking laser fire from the droids, and multiple fire at that. Again things all faster than Khan raising his gun, aiming and firing. Produce Khan's reaction feats or you concede

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Bxpf4JGZw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvsSOjMeEk8

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He doesn't react faster, not even close. Post a clip of Khan's where he evades attacks as fast as Yoda has here... Notice all the flipping he's doing while still striking and still blocking. Just avoiding or blocking one light saber swing takes faster reactions than waiting for a guy to raise his gun.. aim and fire at you. He was avoiding multiple strikes in this clip. Now, either show Khan reacting faster than this or I accept your concession again. Also notice in the next clip. Windu blocking multiple laser fire while falling down like 6 stories. Yet was still able to block fire. Notice inferior Jedi to yoda blocking laser fire from the droids, and multiple fire at that. Again things all faster than Khan raising his gun, aiming and firing. Produce Khan's reaction feats or you concede

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Bxpf4JGZw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvsSOjMeEk8

We see Yoda doesn't jump or flip but barely raises his arm to stop a five second attack he doesn't even start to react to around 4 seconds of the attack. Khan would have shot him multiple times by this point. I can show him taking far less than a second to shoot three holes in one target.

You can only use Yoda showings not other showings to show what Yoda can do.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g1mTJS0L_Hs

Khan takes on Klingons and subjugates Spock, Uhura, and Kirk.

55 seconds: Khan begins his assault on the Klingons.

1:17: Khan's plasma mini cannon shows its impressive firepower capable of taking out the Klingon ship with one blast.

1:26--1:37: Kirk takes on a Klingon in hand to hand combat while we see Spock taking one with an accurate blast from his weapon.

1:39--1:41: Khan use his plasma cannon gun to take out an incoming threat and having the superhuman awareness to then switch to long ranged threats with his other weapon.

1:47--1:48: We see Khan taking two Klingons out simultaneously.

In conclusion the first clip did you in since Dooku took five seconds to raise his arm and use the tk. It took four seconds for Yoda to react. That's relevant to Khan aiming and firing which as the video proves is far faster than four seconds.

Evidence is way better than you're Yoda does this and that. You just backed my case up with Yoda's inferior reaction time.

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Moron, I was even referring to him TK stopping Dooku's attacks. Didn't even mention that. I DID MENTION YODA EVADING DOOKU'S SABER STRIKES... EVEN WHILE FLIPPING AROUDN AND STRIKING HIMSELF.

Now post a clip of Khan showing faster reactions than we see Yoda doing here, or I accept your concession.

Third, you just should how dumb you are and how bias you are. It doesn't take 4 seconds to react. He DOESN'T EVEN LIFT HIS HAND TELL AFTER the objects are coming at him. That is less than a second of reaction time. The only thing you measure in reaction is how long it takes to react to the object. Not how long it takes for the foe to monologue... and then send objects hurling. ALL that matters is once the object is going towards him.. how long does it take Yoda to react. He stops the objects I under a second.. then takes an additional few seconds to throw them away. Those seconds don't count. He reacted to the throws in under a second.

So either post Khan having faster reactions or I'll accept your permanent concession on this matter.

Next, yes we can use other people's feats. Are you actually claiming the inferior Jedi in the Arena are superior to Yoda? Of course they are, they are VASTLY his inferior. Anything they can do, he can do vastly better. Which means, if they can block multiple laser fire, fire going faster than a second... and multiple fire at that. he can easily do the same.

You posted nothing that suggest he has faster reactions than Yoda, either post them, or you've lost.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Moron, I was even referring to him TK stopping Dooku's attacks. Didn't even mention that. I DID MENTION YODA EVADING DOOKU'S SABER STRIKES... EVEN WHILE FLIPPING AROUDN AND STRIKING HIMSELF.

Now post a clip of Khan showing faster reactions than we see Yoda doing here, or I accept your concession.

Third, you just should how dumb you are and how bias you are. It doesn't take 4 seconds to react. He DOESN'T EVEN LIFT HIS HAND TELL AFTER the objects are coming at him. That is less than a second of reaction time. The only thing you measure in reaction is how long it takes to react to the object. Not how long it takes for the foe to monologue... and then send objects hurling. ALL that matters is once the object is going towards him.. how long does it take Yoda to react. He stops the objects I under a second.. then takes an additional few seconds to throw them away. Those seconds don't count. He reacted to the throws in under a second.

So either post Khan having faster reactions or I'll accept your permanent concession on this matter.

Next, yes we can use other people's feats. Are you actually claiming the inferior Jedi in the Arena are superior to Yoda? Of course they are, they are VASTLY his inferior. Anything they can do, he can do vastly better. Which means, if they can block multiple laser fire, fire going faster than a second... and multiple fire at that. he can easily do the same.

You posted nothing that suggest he has faster reactions than Yoda, either post them, or you've lost.

That's undeniable evidence you posted. See that's the problem you didn't even discern this from the clip because you're an idiot. He didn't raise his hand after Dooku reacted for four seconds. That's his reaction time. It isn't instant it took multiple seconds for Dooku to execute the attack but four for Yoda to react to it. You ended yourself by posting this clip. I didn't say it took him four seconds to raise his own arm but it took him four seconds to react to Dooku while he stood by. That's piss poor.

This whole false premise you've created by Yoda tking before people can react is disproven by your own clip. He doesn't react first he reacts four seconds after someone else initially attacked him !!!!

Khan shoots in less than a second while Yoda needed four seconds to react to Dooku. Math. 😂

I provided the proof while you destroyed your own case. I told you that you were wrong and you sunk your own battleship.

Windu also defeated Palpatine while Yoda failed. Quit with the abc logic just because you can't prove Yoda can no need to cry about it.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan doesn't use a sword so it isn't relevant to how these two would fight. The clip was posted and I commented on the relevant part. [B]It took Yoda 4 seconds to use his tk to stop the attack.

That's undeniable evidence you posted. See that's the problem you didn't even discern this from the clip because you're an idiot. He didn't raise his hand after Dooku reacted for four seconds. That's his reaction time. It isn't instant it took multiple seconds for Dooku to execute the attack but four for Yoda to react to it. You ended yourself by posting this clip. I didn't say it took him four seconds to raise his own arm but it took him four seconds to react to Dooku while he stood by. That's piss poor.

This whole false premise you've created by Yoda tking before people can react is disproven by your own clip. He doesn't react first he reacts four seconds after someone else initially attacked him !!!!

Khan shoots in less than a second while Yoda needed four seconds to react to Dooku. Math. 😂

I provided the proof while you destroyed your own case. I told you that you were wrong and you sunk your own battleship.

Windu also defeated Palpatine while Yoda failed. Quit with the abc logic just because you can't prove Yoda can no need to cry about it.

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What kind of jumbled mess is this. You can't even make a coherent point in all this time. It unquestionably matters how fast Yoda was avoiding saber fire. It illustrates how fast he can react. Those strikes, blocking and countering all show vastly faster reactions than Khan ever has. EITHER POST a reaction feat from Khan equivalent to this, or you've lost the reaction portion of the argument.

Further, NO it doesn't take him 4 seconds to react. He takes him UNDER a second to react. He raises his hand AFTER the first object is sent his way. You can clearly see this in the video. THAT is his reaction time. Not how long it takes him to throw it away. He was being casual there with how he tossed it away. That isn't added to his reaction time though. His reaction time is ONLY when he notices the object coming his way, how long does him to react and stop it. Well under 4 seconds sport

Lastly, you failed to address the point. Are you saying the inferior Jedi in the area who were blocking multiple laser fire from multiple foes are above Yoda is skill and power?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What kind of jumbled mess is this. You can't even make a coherent point in all this time. It unquestionably matters how fast Yoda was avoiding saber fire. It illustrates how fast he can react. Those strikes, blocking and countering all show vastly faster reactions than Khan ever has. EITHER POST a reaction feat from Khan equivalent to this, or you've lost the reaction portion of the argument.

Further, NO it doesn't take him 4 seconds to react. He takes him UNDER a second to react. He raises his hand AFTER the first object is sent his way. You can clearly see this in the video. THAT is his reaction time. Not how long it takes him to throw it away. He was being casual there with how he tossed it away. That isn't added to his reaction time though. His reaction time is ONLY when he notices the object coming his way, how long does him to react and stop it. Well under 4 seconds sport

Lastly, you failed to address the point. Are you saying the inferior Jedi in the area who were blocking multiple laser fire from multiple foes are above Yoda is skill and power?

Yoda doesn't react with the same quickness to Dooku's tk attacks. He takes four seconds to react. We see it clearly in the clip. That's a long time for Yoda. At the end we see a much longer reaction time while Yoda watches helplessly on while Dooku again tries to attack Yoda's fallen friends. The reaction time is the time from the start of the attack until Yoda counters. You claimed Yoda Kt's before Khan even fires but here we see four seconds take place before he uses any tk. So based off this you were caught lying about Yoda. In fact it disproves all your claims like I've stated. The evidence is there and undeniable.

Khan shoots in less than four seconds whereas Yoda took four seconds to react to Dooku therefore your claim of him freezing khan before he can shoot is proven false. You also didn't provide any proof to validate that claim but instead and humiliatingly so provided the opposite.

I am saying they are not Yoda so regardless of their skill level you can't use them in place of Yoda. Different characters altogether, dumbass.

I can show Jango shooting one down but you'd conveniently say that isn't Yoda. That's a double standard. 😂

It doesn't matter if Khan has a saber... we're talking reactions here. It's like claiming Ozy can't to a fast punch because he only reacted fast to a bullet. Do you know how moronic that sounds. Reactions are reactions. If he can react to multiple sword swings in close quarters, while still blocking and countering. That is superior reactions to ANYTHING Khan has displayed. Thus, we know Yoda can and will react faster.

Last chance, either post the feat from Khan showing faster reactions or I accept your concession on the matter and will only keep repeating that you can't come up with a feat to match it.

Further, of course you can use their feats. They are VASTLY inferior to Yoda. Anything they can do, he can do better. That is how these things. Only and imbecile such as yourself would say otherwise. So when we see inferior Jedi react to multiple laser fire but multiple foes and have no issue reacting. WE KNOW Yoda could do the same and easier.

This is your last chance... post a reaction feat for Khan or yoda will simple TK his gun away right away or TK him right away. Last chance or this debate is over.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It doesn't matter if Khan has a saber... we're talking reactions here. It's like claiming Ozy can't to a fast punch because he only reacted fast to a bullet. Do you know how moronic that sounds. Reactions are reactions. If he can react to multiple sword swings in close quarters, while still blocking and countering. That is superior reactions to ANYTHING Khan has displayed. Thus, we know Yoda can and will react faster.

Last chance, either post the feat from Khan showing faster reactions or I accept your concession on the matter and will only keep repeating that you can't come up with a feat to match it.

Further, of course you can use their feats. They are VASTLY inferior to Yoda. Anything they can do, he can do better. That is how these things. Only and imbecile such as yourself would say otherwise. So when we see inferior Jedi react to multiple laser fire but multiple foes and have no issue reacting. WE KNOW Yoda could do the same and easier.

This is your last chance... post a reaction feat for Khan or yoda will simple TK his gun away right away or TK him right away. Last chance or this debate is over.

That just proves Yoda can react to slower sabers in close quarters than a long ranged attack. I provided two examples. You not grasping what's relevant and what isn't is you as an inept debater. You don't grasp the nuances of details. Context matters. You are that dumb kid who thinks he's right and doesn't even grasp what you posted as a link. You're an idiot. No, they are not Yoda's feats. Windu also deflected Palp lightning whereas Yoda was tagged. Different characters, different circumstances, different results.

Ps. It was cute when you sought to imitate how I mock you. You really are a massive imbecile with a small vocabulary who is very repetitive and downright stupid.

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Khan shoots in less than four seconds and less than two seconds. Both reaction feats. In one of these examples Yoda was tagged. You claimed Yoda re Khan can shoot. Post the evidence to back your claim.

@KT https://youtu.be/gvYfRiJQIX8

Quan, I dare you to go at least one full "debate" without using personal attacks.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
@KT https://youtu.be/gvYfRiJQIX8

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Quan, I dare you to go at least one full "debate" without using personal attacks.

Originally posted by quanchi112
After you just publically insulted Kt somehow you are asking me not to insult the troll.

To clarify for you, I called you a troll and basically told him to stop fighting a battle he already won. However I'm daring you to go a debate not just with KT but with anyone, to actually debate without using ad hominem attacks. Stick to the facts and that's it. Don't call people the list of insults you use in virtually every post. It's a dare take it or leave it.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
To clarify for you, I called you a troll and basically told him to stop fighting a battle he already won. However I'm daring you to go a debate not just with KT but with anyone, to actually debate without using ad hominem attacks. Stick to the facts and that's it. Don't call people the list of insults you use in virtually every post. It's a dare take it or leave it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We are talking about similar reactions. You don't get to ignore when they were tagged. Sidious tagged him in an attack which took two seconds with a pre warning it was coming. His reactions failed in two seconds and took four seconds to react to Dooku. Khan is shooting plasma which travels at a much faster rate of speed than a saber.

That just proves Yoda can react to slower sabers in close quarters than a long ranged attack. I provided two examples. You not grasping what's relevant and what isn't is you as an inept debater. You don't grasp the nuances of details. Context matters. You are that dumb kid who thinks he's right and doesn't even grasp what you posted as a link. You're an idiot. No, they are not Yoda's feats. Windu also deflected Palp lightning whereas Yoda was tagged. Different characters, different circumstances, different results.

Ps. It was cute when you sought to imitate how I mock you. You really are a massive imbecile with a small vocabulary who is very repetitive and downright stupid.

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Concession accepted. You can't come up with a feat that matches Yoda's reaction time. I accept your concession in full. Yoda wins.