Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

Started by quanchi112201 pages

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
It?
Say Khan wins. Do it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I could care less what fantasy type characters you try to debate. You're ignoring the movies and how the characters fight while you just make things up.

I shall kindly redirect you to forum rule #7

7) When the thread starter makes a new thread, it is very important to cement the conditions of the scenario in the first few posts. This is to avoid confusion and frustration among the other posters. It will not be acceptable for the thread starter to randomly change the conditions of the thread at random intervals. Once the settings/weapons/gear/handicaps/abilities/etc have been cemented in the first few posts of the thread, that is how they will stay. Therefore, be very sure and for certain of how you want your thread to be constructed.

And you will of course note that EVERY vs forum on KMC denotes that Plot induced Stupidity and Character Induced Stupidity are both disabled, Thereby rendering in-universe context utterly meaningless in an out-of-universe theoretical debate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You're wrong but when has that stopped you before ?

I will need you to provide specific quotes of me being wrong and not correcting myself on it please. And I mean actually wrong, not what you believe to be wrong.

anyways, since PIS and CIS is off, there is no reason why he would chose not to in here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You dismiss everything that you don't like. You are like a bratty child.

You raging hypocrite. 😂

I dismiss your accusations as mere projection of self loathing 😮‍💨

Originally posted by quanchi112
You want to ignore the plot and objectivity while you want to if ore the characters. Biased.

Could you.... possibly.... repeat that..... in English?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Force needs to be enacted if you get tagged while off guard you're going to feel the hurt. Examples are force lightning ko'ing Yoda once and the other time him using his powers to redirect it. Order 66 wipes them off the map with precog and sabers.

Context you idiot.

Yoda survived where others would have perished. order 66 worked due to Sids screwing with the force and diminishing the Jedi's ability to use it effectively. Damn dude Windu even explains this on screen.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I understand it completely. You want to pick and choose what feats to use and ignore other combat showings. Not on my watch, zero.

I do not give a rats ass what you want to believe Quan, you are the one cherrypicking every scene and rubbing out the context.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He went all out and failed. He was disarmed and cast down. Now since guards aren't coming in and since he doesn't have a limited amount of time he won't simply leave. But prior to he went all out.

Unsubstantiated fantasies are not evidence, nor are leaps of faith so erroneous that you may as well have jumped into a house of cards.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, more skilled. You might argue Yoda is more acrobatic with his force powers but his skill is dependent on a Lightsaber mainly. I've seen him up against guys with far less experience and that was not a favor. You greatly exaggerate the Jedi and specifically Yoda. Jedis show up and fight basically. They aren't really that formidable or badass. We see the bulk of the Jedi portrayed as inferior to Count Dooku's droid army. Awful showing. We've seen Khan look more impressive by his lonesome than a while slew of the best Jedi save Yoda.

Keep spouting nonsense. The only reason the Jedi were ever pressed was due to the 10 orders of magnitude numbers difference. Keep saddling Khan tho, ruff ryder.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan is more ruthless, more tactical, and can assess the advantages to himself in any situation whereas Yoda just heavily relies on force powers and his skills with a Lightsaber.

Ruthless yes, tactical? not even remotely. Yoda's precog, and experience outshines Khan's by about 700 years.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I shall kindly redirect you to forum rule #7

And you will of course note that EVERY vs forum on KMC denotes that Plot induced Stupidity and Character Induced Stupidity are both disabled, Thereby rendering in-universe context utterly meaningless in an out-of-universe theoretical debate.

I will need you to provide specific quotes of me being wrong and not correcting myself on it please. And I mean actually wrong, not what you believe to be wrong.

anyways, since PIS and CIS is off, there is no reason why he would chose not to in here.

You raging hypocrite. 😂

I dismiss your accusations as mere projection of self loathing 😮‍💨

Could you.... possibly.... repeat that..... in English?

Context you idiot.

Yoda survived where others would have perished. order 66 worked due to Sids screwing with the force and diminishing the Jedi's ability to use it effectively. Damn dude Windu even explains this on screen.

I do not give a rats ass what you want to believe Quan, you are the one cherrypicking every scene and rubbing out the context.

Unsubstantiated fantasies are not evidence, nor are leaps of faith so erroneous that you may as well have jumped into a house of cards.

Keep spouting nonsense. The only reason the Jedi were ever pressed was due to the 10 orders of magnitude numbers difference. Keep saddling Khan tho, ruff ryder.

Ruthless yes, tactical? not even remotely. Yoda's precog, and experience outshines Khan's by about 700 years.

Yes, I was clear and supported it.

You can't just start making things up. You are giving him other feats. You are also ignoring the feats of the movies.

You were wrong when you ignored the movie feats and the fact Yoda was all out.

Your u funny images continue to be unfunny.

You hate me and have admitted to be ruled by hate when it comes to me.

You want to ignore objectivity and the facts presented in the movies by saying pis. That's picking and choosing.

Quit insulting as it's usually just evidence of you being wrong and being upset about it.

Yoda survived due to the circumstances. He faced two and had allies close by. He was not in the front lines and in the middle of battle by himself. Clouded their ability to pinpoint it. It did not stop their precog in battle. We see Yoda use it in battle. We also see Obi clearly use precog against Anakin.

I am not ignoring a single scene. You are falling back on the fanboy excuse, pis. Basically admitting what you do not like you simply disregard.

Yoda being defeated and failing in his objective is a fact. You want to pick and choose though. Hilarious.

They were annihilated. Order 66 wiped 99 percent of them off the map. Te rest we know of went into hiding. Hilarious.

Yes, far more tactical. He set up an event through someone else to expose the elite Starfleet officers. Guy is a one man army.

Yoda's precog failed hard. Palpatine ko'd him and beat him.

Khan would smoke Palpatine and not leave a complete and utter failure.

Originally posted by quanchi112
*Snipped*

Please man, if you are going to debate, do so without breaking forum rules and relying on one gigantic special pleading fallacy.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

Please man, if you are going to debate, do so without breaking forum rules and relying on one gigantic special pleading fallacy.

You just conceded. Awesome. I broke you.

Khan Nooinen Singh wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You just conceded. Awesome. I broke you.

Khan Nooinen Singh wins.

No Quan, If you took the time to read, I just said you used special pleading fallacy throughout all of your arguments, and not just here.

it is impossible to concede to a logical fallacy, therefore you have no case.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No Quan, I f you took the time to read, I just said you used special pleading fallacy throughout all of your arguments, and not just here.

it is impossible to concede to a logical fallacy, therefore you have no case.

Wrong. It's impossible to argue with you since you ignore feats and attempt to create your own. It's awful and biased. I am consistent and objective. That's why you conceded, you gutless wonder.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong. It's impossible to argue with you since you ignore feats and attempt to create your own. It's awful and biased. I am consistent and objective. That's why you conceded, you gutless wonder.

No Quan, I don't ignore a thing, you simply don't like the implications. I never created a feat as this is impossible. Biased is you ignoring context and the rules of debate to suit yourself and your ever present gimping and lowballing.

As I said, I don't have to answer points that are riddled with logical fallacies such as yours. Present an actual argument, and we can discuss it, otherwise piss off.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

No Quan, I don't ignore a thing, you simply don't like the implications. I never created a feat as this is impossible. Biased is you ignoring context and the rules of debate to suit yourself and your ever present gimping and lowballing.

As I said, I don't have to answer points that are riddled with logical fallacies such as yours. Present an actual argument, and we can discuss it, otherwise piss off.

You ignored my entire argument, the characters histories, and feats.

Wrong. You makings up feats is silly.

You conceded. I knew I'd break you. It did happen much sooner than even I thought. Concession accepted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You ignored my entire argument, the characters histories, and feats.

You had no actual argument to begin with. You rely on acts of plot induced stupidity, and there is no feat that I ignored, just your silly application of it. You went straight against your own OP right out of the gate, and have done so since, in an obvious attempt to troll. And as for ignoring character histories... I won't post the pot & kettle image again, because it's simply just too obvious that you ignore canon when it suits you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong. You makings up feats is silly.

It is impossible to make legitimate feats up Quanfool112

Originally posted by quanchi112
*snip*

Pure snot dribbling for the guy who Khan't post a legitimate and worthy debate.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You had no actual argument to begin with. You rely on acts of plot induced stupidity, and there is no feat that I ignored, just your silly application of it. You went straight against your own OP right out of the gate, and have done so since, in an obvious attempt to troll. And as for ignoring character histories... I won't post the pot & kettle image again, because it's simply just too obvious that you ignore canon when it suits you.

It is impossible to make legitimate feats up Quanfool112

Pure snot dribbling for the guy who Khan't post a legitimate and worthy debate.

I accept all showings whereas you decide what's stupid and what isn't. That's bias.

You ignore the feats and create your own. Bias.

I did. You conceded. You have no honor. You're a coward and a rage boy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I accept all showings whereas you decide what's stupid and what isn't. That's bias.

You accept only low ends, that's biased and cherrypicking, so don't even attempt to pretend you are fooling anyone with that line champ.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You ignore the feats and create your own. Bias.

Lies and slander, chimp.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I did. You conceded. You have no honor. You're a coward and a rage boy.

I conceded that you are a horrendous debater and an irrelevant rinse and repeat clown. Yay for you?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You accept only low ends, that's biased and cherrypicking, so don't even attempt to pretend you are fooling anyone with that line champ.

Lies and slander, chimp.

I conceded that you are a horrendous debater and an irrelevant rinse and repeat clown. Yay for you?

I accept all but target the low ends. I mean wtf would I target when arguing against them ?

Cowardice nd denial, kiddo.

You can continue to run, momma's boy. Ill be here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I accept all but target the low ends. I mean wtf would I target when arguing against them ?

You are supposed to be fair regarding debates. You don't even know what you argue half the time, and the other half you deliberately sabotage. You've done this for as long as I've known about you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Cowardice nd denial, kiddo.

You are not even consistent with your own points... Why do I even bother?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You can continue to run, momma's boy. Ill be here.

*Honk Honk*

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You are supposed to be fair regarding debates. You don't even know what you argue half the time, and the other half you deliberately sabotage. You've done this for as long as I've known about you.

You are not even consistent with your own points... Why do I even bother?

*Honk Honk*

I am aware whereas you continue to make things up while ignoring facts while screaming pis. You might as well say bias because Thats all it is.

Yes, I am always consistent unlike you.

Concession accepted.

Yoda dies.

Yes: Consistently wrong.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am aware whereas you continue to make things up while ignoring facts while screaming pis. You might as well say bias because Thats all it is.

Making up... what? And yes, you rely on acts of plot to even begin to raise a point. Bias requires one to actively promote falsehoods, and rely on logical fallacy after fallacy to promote one character over another. YOU are the only one guilty of this.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I am always consistent unlike you.

Consistently incorrect, biased and trollish is not something to be proud of.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Concession accepted.

Yoda dies.

What? Conceded what? You didn't even have an argument in this point... Fantacy concessions, enjoy your imagination land wanker.

Yoda.
Btw quan is full retard.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yes: Consistently wrong.
Based on ?

Originally posted by Estacado
Yoda.
Btw quan is full retard.
How does Yoda win ? Can you argue or are you just capable of insulting posters which shows a lack of an argument more so than anything else.