Originally posted by StealthRangerHe warned Yoda prior to and gave him over a second to defend himself while he slowly raises his hands.
Well if you want to ignore how his lightning is at least as fast as blaster guns which have various hypersonic showings (crossing many km in seconds, like in Geonosis, Hoth and Kasshyk), sureBtw, still curious of these speed feats for Khan's gun which I don't believe I got one for
Khan kills him. Time it out, nerd.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He warned Yoda prior to and gave him over a second to defend himself while he slowly raises his hands.Khan kills him. Time it out, nerd.
All null and void by various speed feats in the verse and how long distance feats determine speed in fiction, etc
Also, nerd is supposed to be an insult? How old are you, 12?
Originally posted by StealthRangerIt is not null and void. It happened.
All null and void by various speed feats in the verse and how long distance feats determine speed in fiction, etcAlso, nerd is supposed to be an insult? How old are you, 12?
Khan mows him down in less than a second. Quit ignoring the films.
Palpatine and Yoda are fast enough to dodge and deflect blaster bolts that have various hypersonic speed feats. Long distance feats determine speed feats. THat happened, this you cannot ignore (curious to see how you go about debunking them. Cue "fan theories", "outlier", "didn't happen every time so it doesn't count"😉
Otherwise by your logic Dante's travelling down the tower isn't Mach 10-20 because it took half a minute to run down a section of the tower, Irvine's sniper bullet that was used against Edea in FFVIII is a slow bullet because it took several seconds to cross 500 feet, Solid Snake's railgun is only subsonic because it took a few seconds to cross hundreds of feet in a cutscene, etc. There's a good reason why apparent time of visuals isn't a way of debunking speed, or why long distance speed feats determine the speed of a character
Shit like this won't be portrayed in microseconds, so we just go "lolfiction" on such things
You accuse me of ignoring the films and ignore higher end feats. You're a god damn hypocrite
Originally posted by quanchi112
Boolean gun weighs more and is attached around the shoulder. Obi was not able to force push away a much smaller gun while in combat. Quit making things up.
For the umpteenth time, Obi Wan is not Yoda. Stop derailing the thread with hypocritical nonsense.
The Boolean gun weighs more than that giant metal pillar or a senate pod?
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroNo, it doesn't but it took his concentration and focus to do so which leaves him while open for the other gun Khan wields to kill him.
For the umpteenth time, Obi Wan is not Yoda. Stop derailing the thread with hypocritical nonsense.The Boolean gun weighs more than that giant metal pillar or a senate pod?
The same logic applies to a force user vs. a skilled combatant.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it doesn't but it took his concentration and focus to do so which leaves him while open for the other gun Khan wields to kill him.The same logic applies to a force user vs. a skilled combatant.
Which Yoda has displayed instantly before. Catching bridges and pillars, killing the Clones from behind him who were about to shoot him in the back, ect, ect. You seem to forget that a Jedi's speed is far FAR greater than Khan's has ever displayed to be, reactions are quicker, overall physical speed is quicker, thought processes are quicker.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroYoda had aid in Obi. They were obviously inferior to Jango since Obi was also easily dispatching them.
Which Yoda has displayed instantly before. Catching bridges and pillars, killing the Clones from behind him who were about to shoot him in the back, ect, ect. You seem to forget that a Jedi's speed is far FAR greater than Khan's has ever displayed to be, reactions are quicker, overall physical speed is quicker, thought processes are quicker.
Khan doesn't have to be faster since he has guns which are faster than Yoda. Khan shoots him in far less time than Palpatine raised his hand to attack Ypda which ended up Koing him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda had aid in Obi. They were obviously inferior to Jango since Obi was also easily dispatching them.
Not on Kashyyk he didn't.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan doesn't have to be faster since he has guns which are faster than Yoda. Khan shoots him in far less time than Palpatine raised his hand to attack Ypda which ended up Koing him.
So theatrics from a single scene determine a characters overall speed now does it?
Palpatine wasn't so slow with the lightning when he struck down Luke, he wasn't so slow when he fired the lightning instantly from a prone position and killed Windu with it.
And Yoda's many scenes of superior speed far overshadow one outlier designed for theatrics.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroLive action films, guy.
Not on Kashyyk he didn't.So theatrics from a single scene determine a characters overall speed now does it?
Palpatine wasn't so slow with the lightning when he struck down Luke, he wasn't so slow when he fired the lightning instantly from a prone position and killed Windu with it.
And Yoda's many scenes of superior speed far overshadow one outlier designed for theatrics.
You can't ignore the scene, sport.
His movement was slow along with the fact he announced he was going to attack.
Yoda isn't anywhere near as impressive as Khan hence him hiding o a planet and later dying after his fellow jedi were killed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Live action films, guy.You can't ignore the scene, sport.
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Oh my, whats this? it would seem to me that you are the one ignoring the movie.
What a shame.
Originally posted by quanchi112
His movement was slow along with the fact he announced he was going to attack.
Except you now ignore the rest of the entire fight. Well done.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda isn't anywhere near as impressive as Khan hence him hiding o a planet and later dying after his fellow jedi were killed.
Because that is SO much more impressive than being trapped in a cryo tube for 2 centuries, and being returned to that tube with near minimal effort on the part of Spock and Uhura, who are much less than Yoda.
The obi isn 't yoda.... yoda is superior every single w ay. So how obi does or doesn't do is irrelevant. Also, jango only survived because of his jet pack n creating a distance gap when he could. KAHN has no jet pack at all. So the scenes aren't comparable nor are the combatants
Next u keep saying yoda is slow because u didn't move from sids lighting and then try n use the time from of sids moving his hand up slowly as proof of how slow he is. That is one of the dumbest things I've seen u say. For one, yoda has displayed vastly superior speed to that scene. Just look at him vs dooku or palos flipping n jumping all over at a ridiculous rate(while blocking n striking with his saber mind u). Clearly he can react at super fast speeds. Second, yoda wasn't trying to dodge the lighting he was trying to absorb it n redirect it or tank it like he did with sids later n dooku before. Lighting is a force power so he was trying to use force powers to counter. Clearly it surprised him how powerful it was so it sent him back. Once he knew what he was getting into he promptly was able to overpower sids n deal with it. However, the point Is
Yoda wouldn't try that with a laser blast he would dodge it. Those scenes aren't close to comparable. Yoda never tried to tank or redirect laser fire. He always dodged it. Just like he did order 66. How this point alludes u is beyond me
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroHow is that relevant to Khan and what he brings to the table ?
oMbOWoHPbvU#t=132Oh my, whats this? it would seem to me that you are the one ignoring the movie.
What a shame.
Except you now ignore the rest of the entire fight. Well done.
Because that is SO much more impressive than being trapped in a cryo tube for 2 centuries, and being returned to that tube with near minimal effort on the part of Spock and Uhura, who are much less than Yoda.
The rest of the fight sees him again unable to deal with his force lightning as it knocks him off to his defeat.
If you believe Spock and Uhura weren't trying then you are lying. Khan was without a weapon as well. He defeatedSpock on his own.
Khan destroys Yoda.
Originally posted by quanchi112
How is that relevant to Khan and what he brings to the table ?
Are even paying attention to the discussion at hand Quan?
Follow the line of thought, this video has nothing to do with Khan, and everything to do with Yoda, and debunking your previous point about him relying on Obi Wan. Obi Wan was not on Kashyyyk. You said Movies, only, the vid proves that what I'm talking about was from the movie, and occurred on Kashyyyk. You are out of excuses.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The rest of the fight sees him again unable to deal with his force lightning as it knocks him off to his defeat.
Wrong. Force Lightning was held back by Yoda's force absorb for a considerable time before he created a force shockwave which threw both of them. Context. Enjoy that.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If you believe Spock and Uhura weren't trying then you are lying. Khan was without a weapon as well. He defeatedSpock on his own.
Because Uhura firing a gun 5 times is effort.... Right.