Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

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Originally posted by quanchi112
We see characters with less powerful guns gun down Jedi. We see order 66 eradicate them. Their numbers were far less than what Khan decimated single handedly according to Kirk. Relevancy. By your own logic no Jedi has ever defeated an augment. 😂

Since this thread is about Yoda, your points about much lesser Jedi (lesser than Obi-Wan even) getting cheap shotted down by multiple clones who were supposed to be on their side is completely irrelevant:

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^100 times more impressive than surprise attacking the Klingons. Especially deflecting all that simultaneous fire power from the Destroyer Droids at 3:03.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just cited a two second attack Palpatine announced. That's awful. Continue to just avoid that point because you can't rebut it.

See above.. LMAO

And you've still failed to show anyone noteworthy who Khan has shot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. Your whole Star Wars characters are greater than all Star Trek characters is just based on fanboyism. Prove it. Debate or leave, troll.

Urm, flight packs, built in weapons, body armor, Enahced strength, Metal Limbs, spinning Lihgtsabers around at super speed... Common sense maybe..

It's completely true. There's no one in Star Trek Khan has fought comes even close to being like Grievous, or Bounty Hunters like Jango Fett and Cad Bane.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Those Klingons would gun down both of those opponents.

Nah, those Klingons are featless.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Grievous can't take down those ships in the same manner Khan did. He'd get shot up.

The heights he leaps, and speeds he moves, his proven agility, mobility, he would easily evade those guns and knock them out of Khan in noe time, right before he slices him up.

And Kenobi completely stomped Greivous.

Then you have the nerve to bring up Yoda? 😆

You're the biggest joke in KMC right now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Obi can't beat him up either.

Obi-Wan can't beat who up? Grievous?

Do you need me to post you the fight? Have you ever actually seen Revenge of the Sith? Or did you fall asleep through that one as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan also took them on weapon less. Was grievous weapon less against Obi ?

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Khan took who on weaponless? Speak English.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Since this thread is about Yoda, your points about much lesser Jedi (lesser than Obi-Wan even) getting cheap shotted down by multiple clones who were supposed to be on their side is completely irrelevant:

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^100 times more impressive than surprise attacking the Klingons. Especially deflecting all that simultaneous fire power from the Destroyer Droids at 3:03.

See above.. LMAO

And you've still failed to show anyone noteworthy who Khan has shot.

Urm, flight packs, built in weapons, body armor, Enahced strength, Metal Limbs, spinning Lihgtsabers around at super speed... Common sense maybe..

It's completely true. There's no one in Star Trek Khan has fought comes even close to being like Grievous, or Bounty Hunters like Jango Fett and Cad Bane.

Nah, those Klingons are featless.

The heights he leaps, and speeds he moves, his proven agility, mobility, he would easily evade those guns and knock them out of Khan in noe time, right before he slices him up.

And Kenobi completely stomped Greivous.

Then you have the nerve to bring up Yoda? 😆

You're the biggest joke in KMC right now.

Obi-Wan can't beat who up? Grievous?

Do you need me to post you the fight? Have you ever actually seen Revenge of the Sith? Or did you fall asleep through that one as well.

Khan took who on weaponless? Speak English.

1:48 ish in we see how awful the droids reaction time is. We also see towards the end the clones clearly save Yoda. Your own evidence shows against far less skilled and coordinated opponents he still needed aid unlike Khan.

Later in the post you call the Klingons featless which I later disproved but cite a featless droid army displaying horrible reflexes and coordination. You're a hypocritical poster fumbling all over the place,

Since you want to dismiss all other evidence you can't dismiss Yoda being owned by Palpatine's warned two second lightning attack. That's awful reaction time.

Khan disarmed Spock with a gun aimed at him first. He showed his reactions are that much greater than Spock. I always back my case, sport.

Romulans, Vulcans, Klingons, Augments all have enhanced or superhuman strength. Boolean gun, teleportational abilities, enhanced bladed weapons, red matter, phaser rifles firing at a much quicker rate, etc.

The jetpacks are also very easy to render inoperational in a fight. Happened to jango and it happened to Pre Vizsla. Evidence.

I disagree. I believe Spock would beat either. I also believe the Klingons would defeat either Cad Bane or Jango Fett.

Just a few of them defeated Kirk. They were also portrayed as greater than an armed Spock, Kirk, and Uhura. So they aren't featless.

Based on ? His mobility and fleeing ability to evade fights is his greatest strength. The guy loses all the time. Khan has eradicated multiple mobile threats and ships while he's out in the open. One threat with laser swords will be easy Pickens for Khan.

Obi failed to beat up Grievous. He needed his saber and a gun to kill him. Obi hurt himself kicking him like a tool.

Khan took on Spock and Uhura while Khan was weaponless. Don't you understand simple sentences ? Can't you ?

Khan decimates Yoda. If the guy can't draw his sword after being warned and before a two second executed attack he's dead in the eater against Khan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1:48 ish in we see how awful the droids reaction time is. We also see towards the end the clones clearly save Yoda. Your own evidence shows against far less skilled and coordinated opponents he still needed aid unlike Khan.

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[B]Later in the post you call the Klingons featless which I later disproved but cite a featless droid army displaying horrible reflexes and coordination. You're a hypocritical poster fumbling all over the place,

Since you want to dismiss all other evidence you can't dismiss Yoda being owned by Palpatine's warned two second lightning attack. That's awful reaction time.

Khan disarmed Spock with a gun aimed at him first. He showed his reactions are that much greater than Spock. I always back my case, sport.

Romulans, Vulcans, Klingons, Augments all have enhanced or superhuman strength. Boolean gun, teleportational abilities, enhanced bladed weapons, red matter, phaser rifles firing at a much quicker rate, etc.

The jetpacks are also very easy to render inoperational in a fight. Happened to jango and it happened to Pre Vizsla. Evidence.

I disagree. I believe Spock would beat either. I also believe the Klingons would defeat either Cad Bane or Jango Fett.

Just a few of them defeated Kirk. They were also portrayed as greater than an armed Spock, Kirk, and Uhura. So they aren't featless.

Based on ? His mobility and fleeing ability to evade fights is his greatest strength. The guy loses all the time. Khan has eradicated multiple mobile threats and ships while he's out in the open. One threat with laser swords will be easy Pickens for Khan.

Obi failed to beat up Grievous. He needed his saber and a gun to kill him. Obi hurt himself kicking him like a tool.

Khan took on Spock and Uhura while Khan was weaponless. Don't you understand simple sentences ? Can't you ?

Khan decimates Yoda. If the guy can't draw his sword after being warned and before a two second executed attack he's dead in the eater against Khan. [/B]

LMAO, did you see how many droids there were firing at him simultaneously.

Tell me how did he deflect them all. Including several destroyer droids.

Destroyer Droid feat is waayyyyy out of Khan's league. He would instantly die against 1. Let alone several of them..

Here's Yoda swarming through some Clone Troopers with peak human aim and reflexes for you as well:

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Khan's a serious noob in comparison. It's a laughable comparison in fact. That's why you're the joke of KMC 😆

Khan lost to Spock and Uhura 😂

Thanks for reminding me of that one.

LMAO at Spock taking down Jango Fett or General Grievous. Their stats and fighting prowess are way beyond Spock. Way beyond Khan.

Khan can only beat featless noobs.

Still waiting for anyone noteworthy (on par with a Jedi) who Khan has shot. Good luck with that one 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are very feminine. It's obvious by your fanboyism.

I proved despite them having Precog they can be taken by surprise and hit. So saying Precog means nothing when I have evidence of a two second attack hitting Yoda.

You're delusional.

Dooku was a lesser skilled and weaker opponent and Yoda was unable to stop him as well. 😂

Post the scene and allow me to explain it to you. You didn't grasp what you saw. Again.

You can tell this how. Fanboyism even if I show it or not doesn't show anything toward a persons personality in that manner. By your own logic that means your homosexual as you support all the losing sides. Cough voldemort khan cough.

If precog is a common ability and he could have used it but didn't that automatically means he can't? No he like Sidious was most likely arrogant at that time and didn't block that however I must agree with you on its a mystery why he didn't block it when he had ample time to do so.

Yes you are.

Actually he did defeat him, twice. Yoda had Dooku on the run in there first bout and then faced him again and dooku had a significant amp and still lost.

Well I will post it but you explaining it is laughable 😂. You can't comprehend what you see or read, I'm staring to think you are like what 8 or 9.
https://youtu.be/IRd9PGmAQUE

Lots of tension here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan has greater feats than any of these schmucks. Feats matter, sport.

Your feats, meaning nothing they do, next to the power of the force . The force, more powerful than any weapon, posses you do.

Yoda with the utmost ease So much ease that the poll doesn't even depict exactly how easy it is.

I love how Quan acts like Khan took on the Klingons h2h and wiped them all out.. when in fact he did nothing of the sort. He shot them when they weren't even attacking them. How on God's green earth is that even the least bit impressive?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
LMAO, did you see how many droids there were firing at him simultaneously.

Tell me how did he deflect them all. Including several destroyer droids.

Destroyer Droid feat is waayyyyy out of Khan's league. He would instantly die against 1. Let alone several of them..

Here's Yoda swarming through some Clone Troopers with peak human aim and reflexes for you as well:

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Khan's a serious noob in comparison. It's a laughable comparison in fact. That's why you're the joke of KMC 😆

Khan lost to Spock and Uhura 😂

Thanks for reminding me of that one.

LMAO at Spock taking down Jango Fett or General Grievous. Their stats and fighting prowess are way beyond Spock. Way beyond Khan.

Khan can only beat featless noobs.

Still waiting for anyone noteworthy (on par with a Jedi) who Khan has shot. Good luck with that one 😆

I saw featless, unskilled droids firing on Yoda who went underneath the structure seeking cover. Once the more capable droids showed up Yoda needed.

According to you featless groups deserve no respect. Unlike the Klingons who easily overwhelmed Kirk thus a feat these guys have none. We see the lesser skilled droid have him dead to right but not fire. We see their incompetence in the video.

Another baseless claim. Prove it. Debating works when you back up your claims with evidence not just making more baseless claims. It's bad enough you used a featless group after deriding me incorrectly for doing the same. 🙂

So you send me another link to Yoda and a highly skilled Jedi Oni against a bunch of featless clones. This is more impressive than crushing droids but he had an ally so he wasn't even able to do this on his own.

Again just a few Klingons overwhelmed Kirk. That's a feat. Now name me one feat these clones have to their credit. You're at the point in which you don't rebut my claims but instead just repeat yourself in kurupt or robtard fashion due to an inability to debate.

Khan was weaponless and your ignorance as to the events of Into Darkness and the context of these feats is all the more pathetic on your end. Khan still beat the shit out of Spock on his own. He ranked 8 stun blasts whereas Yoda wasn't even mad enough to stop the force lightning despite being armed. Facts. They are not your friend.

Saying they are beyond Spock is a baseless claim. Spock isn't going to take them on with a sword. He is going to gun them down. Grievous was gunned down. 😉

Jango looked pathetic in a hand to hand fight unlike Spock. One nerve pinch and game over for Jango.

You have to prove by feats. I don't have to prove according to your fanboyish logic who cuts the bill. You're biased and use double standards and are to moronic to stop.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Yoda with the utmost ease So much ease that the poll doesn't even depict exactly how easy it is.

I love how Quan acts like Khan took on the Klingons h2h and wiped them all out.. when in fact he did nothing of the sort. He shot them when they weren't even attacking them. How on God's green earth is that even the least bit impressive?

To be fair it was impressive. Impressive enough to be a challenge to an average Knight maybe.

But any notable Jedi like the ones the Jedi High Council? No chance.

As for Yoda? That's just a joke.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You can tell this how. Fanboyism even if I show it or not doesn't show anything toward a persons personality in that manner. By your own logic that means your homosexual as you support all the losing sides. Cough voldemort khan cough.

If precog is a common ability and he could have used it but didn't that automatically means he can't? No he like Sidious was most likely arrogant at that time and didn't block that however I must agree with you on its a mystery why he didn't block it when he had ample time to do so.

Yes you are.

Actually he did defeat him, twice. Yoda had Dooku on the run in there first bout and then faced him again and dooku had a significant amp and still lost.

Well I will post it but you explaining it is laughable 😂. You can't comprehend what you see or read, I'm staring to think you are like what 8 or 9.
https://youtu.be/IRd9PGmAQUE

What you said again a makes no sense. You're a fanboy and lie for your faves.

It isn't a mystery he was unable to do so. Yoda defended himself as best he could. Force lightning was his downfall and the reason he was unable to kill Palpatine. It also disarmed him with his sword out. Oh precog you wonderful failure.

Quit projecting, kiddo.

Yoda was unable to stop him hence Dooku distracting Yoda and fleeing. Dooku was an inferior opponent but still managed to flee. Awful showing for yodas skills.

So you posted what you didn't describe a post ago. What a joke you are.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Your feats, meaning nothing they do, next to the power of the force . The force, more powerful than any weapon, posses you do.
Good thing I'm arguing against a force user. Force users went down by the scores to the clones via order 66.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Yoda with the utmost ease So much ease that the poll doesn't even depict exactly how easy it is.

I love how Quan acts like Khan took on the Klingons h2h and wiped them all out.. when in fact he did nothing of the sort. He shot them when they weren't even attacking them. How on God's green earth is that even the least bit impressive?

I have been saying the exact opposite. Khan uses his guns from this scene you absolute dummy.

Now you're lying about the Klingons. They were rushing Khan and he was slaughtering them. Khan not on,y slaughtered them all he subdued Spock and his friends despite Spock having his gun aimed at him first.

You're an absolute fool of the highest order.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I saw featless, unskilled droids firing on Yoda who went underneath the structure seeking cover. Once the more capable droids showed up Yoda needed.

He was deflecting multiple Destroyer droids firing on him. Show me Khan handling that kind of fire power, then you can talk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
According to you featless groups deserve no respect.

Oh no, don't get all trolly with me. That was your argument which I've just twisted back on you, in response to which you've tried to switch the argument many times. But I'm onto you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Unlike the Klingons who easily overwhelmed Kirk thus a feat these guys have none. We see the lesser skilled droid have him dead to right but not fire. We see their incompetence in the video.

Oooh the Klingons easily overwhelmed Kirk? Wow Kirk of all people. I mean he's a normal human being. No Jedi powers, no genetice enhancements, nothing. You know how powerful those Human beings can be right?

Those featless Clone Troopers took down Jedi, as you like to point out yourself. They are cloned soldiers, trained for combat from Day 1. Cloned from the Uber Combat perfect DNA of Jango Fett.

Definietely more impressive than guys who can beat up a normal human 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Another baseless claim. Prove it. Debating works when you back up your claims with evidence not just making more baseless claims. It's bad enough you used a featless group after deriding me incorrectly for doing the same. 🙂

No ones more featless than your Klingons 😂

They're only slightly stronger than humans. And are not known at all for their reflexes or coordination.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you send me another link to Yoda and a highly skilled Jedi Oni against a bunch of featless clones. This is more impressive than crushing droids but he had an ally so he wasn't even able to do this on his own.

Oh no, check the video again. Right when it starts you see Kenobi in his own little corner fighting only a few clones, with the majority of the clones closing in on Yoda, but clearly standing no chance at all.

Order 66 (which you keep bringing up) also completely failed in destroying Yoda. Even when they were aiming to surprise shoot him from behind.

Still nothing compares to deflecting fire power from several Destroyer Droids. Each one of those Destroyer Droids is out of Khan's league. And don't know what you think Spock and Uhura would do to a Destroyer Droid 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan was weaponless and your ignorance as to the events of Into Darkness and the context of these feats is all the more pathetic on your end. Khan still beat the shit out of Spock on his own.

Oohh he beat up Spock. WOW!

Spock would be in pieces if he went up against a Jedi. As would Uhura, backing him up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He ranked 8 stun blasts

Must have been a very low stun setting, considering Scotty put him down with just 1 blast earlier in the film. Uhura just didn't want to risk killing him, because they needed his blood 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
whereas Yoda wasn't even mad enough to stop the force lightning despite being armed. Facts. They are not your friend.

LMAO

Prove Khan would stop or react to Sidious's FL, then talk.

Yoda has sent Dooku running, who in turn has stomped Kenobi who in turn stomped a superhuman being whose stats are beyond Khan's (Grievous).

Now that's what you call a feat.

Who did Khan defeat again?

Oh yeah.. Spock! 😆

Yoda batters dozens of droids firing at him in the middle of them. He does the same to Clone Troopers. He deflects several Destroyer Droid machine gun firing at him simultaneously.

What does Khan do? Oh that's right, surprise attack a bunch of featless Klingons, from a great Vantage point armed with much better guns.

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Ohh Quanchi boy. Save yourself some dignity and concede you've lost this thread and it was a stupid one to begin in the first place.

I mean fair enough if you think Khan could challenge Kenobi. He'd get wrecked, but at least that wouldn't be a completely laughable thread since it's made by a fanboy.

But this? This is why you're the Joke of KMC right now.

Seriously, you guys do realize that quan is just trolling and that no matter how reasonable or polite you are, he is never going to admit that he was wrong and that his favorite character would actually lose?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
He was deflecting multiple Destroyer droids firing on him. Show me Khan handling that kind of fire power, then you can talk.

Oh no, don't get all trolly with me. That was your argument which I've just twisted back on you, in response to which you've tried to switch the argument many times. But I'm onto you.

Oooh the Klingons easily overwhelmed Kirk? Wow Kirk of all people. I mean he's a normal human being. No Jedi powers, no genetice enhancements, nothing. You know how powerful those Human beings can be right?

Those featless Clone Troopers took down Jedi, as you like to point out yourself. They are cloned soldiers, trained for combat from Day 1. Cloned from the Uber Combat perfect DNA of Jango Fett.

Definietely more impressive than guys who can beat up a normal human 😂

No ones more featless than your Klingons 😂

They're only slightly stronger than humans. And are not known at all for their reflexes or coordination.

Oh no, check the video again. Right when it starts you see Kenobi in his own little corner fighting only a few clones, with the majority of the clones closing in on Yoda, but clearly standing no chance at all.

Order 66 (which you keep bringing up) also completely failed in destroying Yoda. Even when they were aiming to surprise shoot him from behind.

Still nothing compares to deflecting fire power from several Destroyer Droids. Each one of those Destroyer Droids is out of Khan's league. And don't know what you think Spock and Uhura would do to a Destroyer Droid 😂

Oohh he beat up Spock. WOW!

Spock would be in pieces if he went up against a Jedi. As would Uhura, backing him up.

Must have been a very low stun setting, considering Scotty put him down with just 1 blast earlier in the film. Uhura just didn't want to risk killing him, because they needed his blood 😂

LMAO

Prove Khan would stop or react to Sidious's FL, then talk.

Yoda has sent Dooku running, who in turn has stomped Kenobi who in turn stomped a superhuman being whose stats are beyond Khan's (Grievous).

Now that's what you call a feat.

Who did Khan defeat again?

Oh yeah.. Spock! 😆

Yoda batters dozens of droids firing at him in the middle of them. He does the same to Clone Troopers. He deflects several Destroyer Droid machine gun firing at him simultaneously.

What does Khan do? Oh that's right, surprise attack a bunch of featless Klingons, from a great Vantage point armed with much better guns.

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Ohh Quanchi boy. Save yourself some dignity and concede you've lost this thread and it was a stupid one to begin in the first place.

I mean fair enough if you think Khan could challenge Kenobi. He'd get wrecked, but at least that wouldn't be a completely laughable thread since it's made by a fanboy.

But this? This is why you're the Joke of KMC right now.

Khan was bringing down bigger ships yet your featless destroyer droids don't cut the mustard. You can believe so but we see how easily they were dealt with by the clones. Not really a thinking opponent now are they ?

The Klingons aren't featless. A few overwhelmed Kirk.. Your group ironically is featless not mine.

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Kirk beat the shit out of members aboard the dreadnought. Kirk needed a phaser against the Klingons and was just overwhelmed by a few before Khan killed them. Kirk's intelligence and his hand to hand sprightliness prowess are pretty impressive for humans just not Klingons. Spock and Unura were going to be oberhlwmed as well. Spock is superhuman.

Not the ones in the scan you posted. The clones aren't exact copies they just share the same DNA. Their experiences are unique to each clone.

I remember an episode where we see a clone hiding and abandoning his duties in the army in an episode.

Kirk is also not just a human. His leadership skills, his gut instincts are indeed special. You downplaying his feats is pathetic. Hasn't even Jar jar clumsily killed droids for crying out loud. Kirk>>>>Jar Jar.

I just named a feat or two. You ignored them while you don't have one single feat from this crew of clones making you a hypocrite.

They are more coordinated than the droids. They also are warrior like as evidenced by the scene. Droids are easily taken care of by even the inept jar jar blinks mistakenly hopping around.

They both engaged the entire group so Yoda had aid. They were also a smaller number without ships to drop in more soldiers to aid against Khan. Khan killed one group and subdued the other.

Two clones failed. Yoda was tipped off by the disturbance in the force when they died. The clones were also kind of stupid in how they approached Yoda. He then had wookkee allies to assist him.

Based in what ? What defeats do the destroyer droids have ? What energy blast feats compare to the Boolean gun or the accuracy in which Khan demonstrated in the scene.

Spock himself would easily take one out with a phaser.

Baseless claim. One nerve pinch would put down any Jedi or sith. Khan tanked two.

Scotty cheapshotted him and he recovered while weaponless to one shot him and decimate Kirk. Khan has his weapons here. He was also alone against the starfleet and the Klingons. Yoda had allies who helped him flee.

Khan guns him down in less than a second. When Palpatine would raise his hands he'd die there from one Boolean blast. 2 seconds. Hahahaha.

Based on ? You just made a bunch of baseless claims to reach a baseless conclusion. Debate or leave, troll.

Who did Yoda defeat again worth noting ? Nobody.

Featless groups is the best you can do with Yoda. Awful. How many films and episodes has he been in again ? Maybe if they do an origin film you'll actually be able to make a case.

A few defeated Kirk. That's a feat, liar. Your crew is featless. Khan was out in the open as multiple trained Klingons and ships all were against him. He prevailed with relative ease. He didn't need to carefully plan with an ally in Obi to go to the Jedi temple with less clones. That's called preparation.

Your personal attacks add validity to my case. Quit avoiding the debate which I have decimated you on point by point. Star Wars fans need to be objective.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Seriously, you guys do realize that quan is just trolling and that no matter how reasonable or polite you are, he is never going to admit that he was wrong and that his favorite character would actually lose?
Explain how I am off here. Debate or else leave.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]No, they aren't featless. They beat Kirk and were better than Kirk, Spock, and Uhura. The scene was clearly depicted. So that's a feat. Featless means no feats.

It's a harder situation than against one opponent who doesn't have a gun. Thanks for admitting that.

They're seriously just fodder, quan. What's the slightest bit impressive about threatening (not killing, mind) a ship's crew? The Klingons remain featless.


His reflexes with th guns make his attacks faster.

This is rather obvious or so I thought.

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So the guns do make him faster? You're claiming that without his guns, Khan has slower reflexes, yes?

Originally posted by The Scenario
They're seriously just fodder, quan. What's the slightest bit impressive about threatening (not killing, mind) a ship's crew? The Klingons remain featless.

So the guns do make him faster? You're claiming that without his guns, Khan has slower reflexes, yes?

We see they were superior to the enterprise crew prior to Khan being involved. The funniest part is you used to rant and rave about link despite fodder koing him.

Defeating Kirk is a feat. Just a few of them were required and Kirk was armed.

Khan uses his guns to negate the saber. In a hand to hand battle minus weapons khan is too formidable for a Jedi in that manner. This battle is about weapons. His guns negate the light sabers. The light sabers are a lot slower than the phaser blasts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see they were superior to the enterprise crew prior to Khan being involved. The funniest part is you used to rant and rave about link despite fodder koing him.

Defeating Kirk is a feat. Just a few of them were required and Kirk was armed.

Kirk wasn't defeated, stop making things up please. Klingons remain fodder and taking them out isn't impressive.


Khan uses his guns to negate the saber. In a hand to hand battle minus weapons khan is too formidable for a Jedi in that manner. This battle is about weapons. His guns negate the light sabers. The light sabers are a lot slower than the phaser blasts.

How does the gun negate the saber? Last I checked, Yoda is more than capable of deflecting Khan's shots. Yoda has also shown that he's much faster than blasts, so try again. Do Khan's guns make him faster?

Originally posted by The Scenario
Kirk wasn't defeated, stop making things up please. Klingons remain fodder and taking them out isn't impressive.

How does the gun negate the saber? Last I checked, Yoda is more than capable of deflecting Khan's shots. Yoda has also shown that he's much faster than blasts, so try again. Do Khan's guns make him faster?

Yes, he was. He was held down until Khan shot them. That's called losing, sport.

You said featless which is inaccurate. U don't care about you saying baseless things like fodder.

Based on what ? What guns have Yoda deflected with the same power or rate of speed comparable to Khan's weapons ? Let's forget those guys were featless.

Yoda is faster than the featless guys aiming the guns. Hypocritically him killing featless foes who I could just as easily say are fodder make you look desperate.