Khan Noonien Singh vs. Yoda

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he was. He was held down until Khan shot them. That's called losing, sport.

That's called suppressing fire. Kirk did not lose at any point, where did you get that idea?

You said featless which is inaccurate. U don't care about you saying baseless things like fodder.

They're featless, so yes they are fodder. That's my basis.

Based on what ? What guns have Yoda deflected with the same power or rate of speed comparable to Khan's weapons ? Let's forget those guys were featless.

Yoda is faster than the featless guys aiming the guns. Hypocritically him killing featless foes who I could just as easily say are fodder make you look desperate.

All guns aimed at Yoda have been deflected, and he's done so from multiple angles. Actually, no, while Yoda is faster than the fodder he fought, that's not what I'm claiming. Yoda was, in fact, faster than the guns firing at him. The ones holding said guns are irrelevant. Try again, quan.

Originally posted by The Scenario
That's called suppressing fire. Kirk did not lose at any point, where did you get that idea?

They're featless, so yes they are fodder. That's my basis.

All guns aimed at Yoda have been deflected, and he's done so from multiple angles. Actually, no, while Yoda is faster than the fodder he fought, that's not what I'm claiming. Yoda was, in fact, faster than the guns firing at him. The ones holding said guns are irrelevant. Try again, quan.

Continuing to ignore feats is ignoring facts thus proving you're delusional.

Featless crew lacking the skill of Khan and his weaponry. It depends on the the placement, their skill, and his leaping. If he was faster than the blasts he wouldn't need to block them. At the distance they fired without superhuman skill he was fast enough to block them.

It's like you're ignoring the distance. If a pitcher threw at max speed say twenty feet closer to the mound would it be harder or easier to hit the ball ?

This is all too easy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kirk was powerless to escape. He was being held down and was at their mercy. I guess multiple men overpowering you and holding you down at their mercy means nothing in your world.

Continuing to ignore feats is ignoring facts thus proving you're delusional.

I guess so, since Kirk was never physically held down. He could still act, and was never defeated. You're making up feats now.

Featless crew lacking the skill of Khan and his weaponry. It depends on the the placement, their skill, and his leaping. If he was faster than the blasts he wouldn't need to block them. At the distance they fired without superhuman skill he was fast enough to block them.

It's like you're ignoring the distance. If a pitcher threw at max speed say twenty feet closer to the mound would it be harder or easier to hit the ball ?

This is all too easy.

What are you trying to say here? Yoda was easily faster than the guns firing at him, because if he wasn't he wouldn't be able to block them. Thus he's also faster than Khan's guns. Skill isn't magic, quan, having it doesn't negate Yoda's abilities.

by the time summer is over this stupid thread will be over 100 pages

Originally posted by The Scenario
I guess so, since Kirk was never physically held down. He could still act, and was never defeated. You're making up feats now.

What are you trying to say here? Yoda was easily faster than the guns firing at him, because if he wasn't he wouldn't be able to block them. Thus he's also faster than Khan's guns. Skill isn't magic, quan, having it doesn't negate Yoda's abilities.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F941YgqWr0Y

Due to the distance the blasts have to travel before hitting him and the skill of the people or droids firing them. Yoda is fast enough at that distance by those opponents but he isn't faster than lasers. Don't be ridiculous. You also claimed a light saber throw was faster than a laser. 😂

Khan's guns fire at a quicker rate in succession and he has a more powerful blast from the Boolean gun than Yoda has blocked.

Ok, since you're unable to grasp the simple I'll make it clear. Obi is skilled enough to defect blasts but at no point faster than Jango in a fight. It's pretty even despite Obi blocking his fire at a considerable distance away but not even fast enough to avoid a headbutt.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMZdrUx8eM

Originally posted by quanchi112
What you said again a makes no sense. You're a fanboy and lie for your faves.

It isn't a mystery he was unable to do so. Yoda defended himself as best he could. Force lightning was his downfall and the reason he was unable to kill Palpatine. It also disarmed him with his sword out. Oh precog you wonderful failure.

Quit projecting, kiddo.

Yoda was unable to stop him hence Dooku distracting Yoda and fleeing. Dooku was an inferior opponent but still managed to flee. Awful showing for yodas skills.

So you posted what you didn't describe a post ago. What a joke you are.

You again are just stupid so I might be a little to complicated for you to understand.

So your saying with Sidious basically telling you I'm going to attack, then giving him 2-3 seconds notice of the attack your saying that what we see was all he can do? What a joke you are.

Oh how simple minded you are. Yoda was winning and dooku fled because he knew he couldn't win so he distracted yoda with that knowing yoda would catch it instead of going after him. Actually it's a great showing. He basically forced Dooku to retreat, Dooku is shown as being on par with the absolute best of the Jedi order and yoda showing he can force him to flee is an excellent showing.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
by the time summer is over this stupid thread will be over 100 pages

I know we're just letting him troll us all.

The evidence and the votes speak for themselves. He will never give up or concede, and has basically sealed his reputation as The Troll of KMC.

If we know that he's just trolling just stop answering. If he says later that who lost the debate just say you did. Everyone leave the debate as we are all smarter and greater than Quan just leave.

The thing is, Pr(a mod) has told quan that he was breaking the rules by baiting and trolling to which quan responded by basically saying that is why he posts on the movie vs forum, because Imp seems to let a certain amount of trolling slide.

This is more than a little amount. This is 60 pages

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
If we know that he's just trolling just stop answering. If he says later that who lost the debate just say you did. Everyone leave the debate as we are all smarter and greater than Quan just leave.

We all know he's just trolling and doing this for attention. I for one choose to engage him because I'm bored and this entertains me. I know I won't convince him, and I don't really care. It's something to do between shifts.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You again are just stupid so I might be a little to complicated for you to understand.

So your saying with Sidious basically telling you I'm going to attack, then giving him 2-3 seconds notice of the attack your saying that what we see was all he can do? What a joke you are.

Oh how simple minded you are. Yoda was winning and dooku fled because he knew he couldn't win so he distracted yoda with that knowing yoda would catch it instead of going after him. Actually it's a great showing. He basically forced Dooku to retreat, Dooku is shown as being on par with the absolute best of the Jedi order and yoda showing he can force him to flee is an excellent showing.

Concession accepted.

I am saying that is the attack Yoda fell for. He won't always do that but Yoda did fall for that slow attack.

Yoda IMO would have won but he failed to against a weaker opponent. That's shameful. Dooku actually stale mating someone on par with his master is a great showing for Dooku. Yoda being unable to best this inferior opponent shows how overrated Yoda is.

You are the one who concedes.

Run along, boy.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I know we're just letting him troll us all.

The evidence and the votes speak for themselves. He will never give up or concede, and has basically sealed his reputation as The Troll of KMC.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The thing is, Pr(a mod) has told quan that he was breaking the rules by baiting and trolling to which quan responded by basically saying that is why he posts on the movie vs forum, because Imp seems to let a certain amount of trolling slide.

You should change your name to thedkeffect

Originally posted by Silent Master
You should change your name to thedkeffect

Originally posted by quanchi112
What is ? Explain.

I am saying that is the attack Yoda fell for. He won't always do that but Yoda did fall for that slow attack.

Yoda IMO would have won but he failed to against a weaker opponent. That's shameful. Dooku actually stale mating someone on par with his master is a great showing for Dooku. Yoda being unable to best this inferior opponent shows how overrated Yoda is.

You are the one who concedes.

Run along, boy.

See, when you say how I don't comprehend topic, or how I misspell p, or how you don't follow anything, I take that as you don't understand what I'm saying because you are stupid.

That doesn't mean he can't ever defend against it. So with that you admit that my point is right.

He didn't stalemate yoda, far from it. I like Dooku to but he is not on yoda level. He is with windu on the next tier down. IMO it goes yoda and Sidous and anakin
then Dooku and windu than obi wan. Yoda is way more powerful and skilled than Dooku as he was defeated by yoda twice and the second time he had an amp. So no Dooku didn't stalemate him, he fled the battle be issue he couldn't win.

I have no need to concede as I have won this debate. Goodbye sir I hope to never see you again as you are terrible at this game.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
See, when you say how I don't comprehend topic, or how I misspell p, or how you don't follow anything, I take that as you don't understand what I'm saying because you are stupid.

That doesn't mean he can't ever defend against it. So with that you admit that my point is right.

He didn't stalemate yoda, far from it. I like Dooku to but he is not on yoda level. He is with windu on the next tier down. IMO it goes yoda and Sidous and anakin
then Dooku and windu than obi wan. Yoda is way more powerful and skilled than Dooku as he was defeated by yoda twice and the second time he had an amp. So no Dooku didn't stalemate him, he fled the battle be issue he couldn't win.

I have no need to concede as I have won this debate. Goodbye sir I hope to never see you again as you are terrible at this game.

It means that he failed in that instance so it's huge against precog being exaggerated. Boom.

The fight ended with no one being injured and Dooku fleeing. Dooku should have been beaten with the time those two fought and the edge in skill Yoda has.

I provided evidence and addressed while rebutting your delusions. Run and hide like Obi or Yoda.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are just speaking in generalizations without addressing anything aka trolling.

It means that he failed in that instance so it's huge against precog being exaggerated. Boom.

The fight ended with no one being injured and Dooku fleeing. Dooku should have been beaten with the time those two fought and the edge in skill Yoda has.

I provided evidence and addressed while rebutting your delusions. Run and hide like Obi or Yoda.

You are known for being a troll here. Not me.

Actually no old not. Who needs precog to defend agaisn't that attack.

Exactly yoda is better and force him to retreat. Just because your better doesn't mean they just outright beat them unless they have a significant advantage. Dooku is close to Yodas level as he is stated in yoda dark rendezvous the only ones who could match yoda on even footing are Dooku, windu, and Darth Sidious. Of course of yoda fought Dooku or windu he would defeat them but not after a good fight. So yoda is better and he forced Dooku to flee.

I don't hide and lie like you. I climb to the top of the ladder and make myself emperor just like Sidous but I kill my apprentice early and gain a new one. How did you defeat any of my arguments? Explain.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You are known for being a troll here. Not me.

Actually no old not. Who needs precog to defend agaisn't that attack.

Exactly yoda is better and force him to retreat. Just because your better doesn't mean they just outright beat them unless they have a significant advantage. Dooku is close to Yodas level as he is stated in yoda dark rendezvous the only ones who could match yoda on even footing are Dooku, windu, and Darth Sidious. Of course of yoda fought Dooku or windu he would defeat them but not after a good fight. So yoda is better and he forced Dooku to flee.

I don't hide and lie like you. I climb to the top of the ladder and make myself emperor just like Sidous but I kill my apprentice early and gain a new one. How did you defeat any of my arguments? Explain.

It is evidence that precog isn't that effective since it fell below human level reflexes.

Yoda is better which is my point. He was unable to stop him from fleeing or injure him. Dooku imposed his will and left.

Not Windu. Windu beat Palpatine. Yoda failed. Then he fled like a coward.

You beg on your backside for help in combat. Like Khan I take on starfleet and the Klingons alone. I'm a one man wrecking crew, coward.