Durability vs Healing Factor

BIG change in stips tbh, Butterball isn't simply bullet proof he was completely invulnerable. Don't think these kinds of changes to stips are allowed via forum rules past the 2nd page (w/c this is).

To answer you question, still healing factor. I don't get where ppl are getting the whole "rape" thing tbh, this isn't a televised prison drama it's RL. Chances of getting raped is low. And what would prevent you from getting raped while invulnerable anyway? Last I checked, ppl can still hold you down even if your skin's invulnerable.

Originally posted by Nibedicus

To answer you question, still healing factor. I don't get where ppl are getting the whole "rape" thing tbh, this isn't a televised prison drama it's RL. Chances of getting raped is low. And what would prevent you from getting raped while invulnerable anyway? Last I checked, ppl can still hold you down even if your skin's invulnerable.

They will all Gang up on you and Rape you. black guys will hurt your small anus with their huge thick penis...

I'll take durability thanks...

Originally posted by Nibedicus
And what would prevent you from getting raped while invulnerable anyway? Last I checked, ppl can still hold you down even if your skin's invulnerable.

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Originally posted by googol
with HF you can still be sent to Jail. I have seen some Bad Black Mofos in there..

They will all Gang up on you and Rape you. black guys will hurt your small anus with their huge thick penis...

I'll take durability thanks...

I don't plan to rob a convenience store anytime soon, so I'm not worried. Thus, HF all the way.

Also, like I said, your original post says "bullet proof" you can't change stips at this stage per rules.

I've always wondered if your body is super durable wouldn't your immune system be jacked up as well?

Originally posted by Newjak
I've always wondered if your body is super durable wouldn't your immune system be jacked up as well?

Not unless specified w/c it wasn't at the start. Still would make you vulnerable to aging, cancer (as your cancer cells would inherit the same qualities most likely) and most heart disease, tho.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Not unless specified w/c it wasn't at the start. Still would make you vulnerable to aging, cancer (as your cancer cells would inherit the same qualities most likely) and most heart disease, tho.

Most of those conditions happen because of body failure but if your body is Super Durable it would make you less prone to those things as it's harder for your body to fail at things.

Obviously if you do meet something that can take your body down then you are going down which is the one sucky part.

Of course depending on the stips of the thread it changes what I would do. It also depends on what power level of healing factor we are getting vs the power level of the durability durability.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
like I said, your original post says "bullet proof" you can't change stips at this stage per rules.

I dont want to be Rape by Black guys with monster cocks so, I'll take durability thanks..

Edit. sooner or later you would want to be a "Hero" and take a Vigilante mantle and try to stop crime and shit. then since its real life you would be traped and sent to Jail where big bad black guys will rape you on a constant bases... that would suck big time.

Originally posted by Newjak
I've always wondered if your body is super durable wouldn't your immune system be jacked up as well?

As far as I'm concerned, durability is durability. It gets tweaked in comics only when issues pop up, eg, blunt force vs piercing to explain why Wonder Woman can take a superpunch but has to block bullets. More often, as I mentioned in a prior post, any description of a character's durability I've ever read included resistance to disease along with being bulletproof or artilleryproof.

But then, if the OP is specifying durability limits...

Originally posted by Newjak
Why?

Most of those conditions happen because of body failure but if your body is Super Durable it would make you less prone to those things as it's harder for your body to fail at things.

Obviously if you do meet something that can take your body down then you are going down which is the one sucky part.

Of course depending on the stips of the thread it changes what I would do. It also depends on what power level of healing factor we are getting vs the power level of the durability durability.

Cancer is caused when your own cells mutate due to damaged RNA/DNA, heart attacks are caused by blockage that would starve your heart muscle and cause them to die (thus killing you), on top of that you're still vulnerable to aging w/c invulnerability isn't going to help you with.

Originally posted by googol
Butterball is bullet proof..

When an OP says "bullet proof" as a stipulation, it is usually understood as the outlier level of invulnerability, not minimum or in-between level. Also, Butterball has other powers/vulnerabilities other than his skin and organs. You are effectively expanding the areas where the vulnerability applies.

I think it would be best if you stay w/in the original texts of your stips out of courtesy instead of expanding it as ppl have already debated for pages using the exact wording of your stipulation and sufficient time has already passed where changes are no longer allowed.

Originally posted by googol
I dont want to be Rape by Black guys with monster cocks so, I'll take durability thanks..

Edit. sooner or later you would want to be a "Hero" and take a Vigilante mantle and try to stop crime and shit. then since its real life you would be traped and sent to Jail where big bad black guys will rape you on a constant bases... that would suck big time.

Not sure if serious....

Originally posted by Mindship

But then, if the OP is specifying durability limits...

Originally posted by Nibedicus

Not sure if serious....

no thanks.

While Invulnerable you would still age and die in prison with your virgen Anus... 😱

Originally posted by googol
oh I am.... say if you were a vigilante and wanted to stop some terrorist but at the end they managed to explode their bombs on a housing bilding and kill a few dosen people? and the police beleive you were one of them? consecutive life sentences will await you... a life in Prison.. A life of Rape...

no thanks.

While Invulnerable you would still age and die in prison with your virgen Anus... 😱

/facepalm.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Snip

Okay, so here's the problem with this naive 15 year old post of yours.

You assume that you're going to spend 60 years "learning genetics" and develop a super-cure from your own body. No funding, no prior skills or anything like that. You're going to start from scratch and create a miracle-cure that will sell for billions.

Now without revealing how this was created (or do you plan on revealing your superhuman nature to people) you plan on cashing in on some of the greatest medicine-whatever deals in the history of mankind.

In real life.

You also claim that "rape" never takes place, but it's reaching 10% of the female population in many western countries and in some of the worse areas, India in example, over 75% of women report being sexually abused at one point. But I'll leave you to your dreams.

My point is that you claim to be living in a "realistic" setting where no violence takes place, you would not be captured despite being possibly the most valuable human being alive, police prevent any crime, you have "armours", you (seemingly with no knowledge of the world) are going to learn and surpass anyone within the field of medicine and genetics in 60 years.

This is not realistic.

Your knowledge of how healing factors are portrayed differently in comics is also woefully inadequate, not to mention your knowledge of the character whose durability our powers would stem from.

Originally posted by curryman
Okay, so here's the problem with this naive 15 year old post of yours.

You assume that you're going to spend 60 years "learning genetics" and develop a super-cure from your own body. No funding, no prior skills or anything like that. You're going to start from scratch and create a miracle-cure that will sell for billions.

Now without revealing how this was created (or do you plan on revealing your superhuman nature to people) you plan on cashing in on some of the greatest medicine-whatever deals in the history of mankind.

In real life.

You also claim that "rape" never takes place, but it's reaching 10% of the female population in many western countries and in some of the worse areas, India in example, over 75% of women report being sexually abused at one point. But I'll leave you to your dreams.

My point is that you claim to be living in a "realistic" setting where no violence takes place, you would not be captured despite being possibly the most valuable human being alive, police prevent any crime, you have "armours", you (seemingly with no knowledge of the world) are going to learn and surpass anyone within the field of medicine and genetics in 60 years.

This is not realistic.

Your knowledge of how healing factors are portrayed differently in comics is also woefully inadequate, not to mention your knowledge of the character whose durability our powers would stem from.

Originally posted by curryman
Okay, so here's the problem with this naive 15 year old post of yours.

You assume that you're going to spend 60 years "learning genetics" and develop a super-cure from your own body. No funding, no prior skills or anything like that. You're going to start from scratch and create a miracle-cure that will sell for billions.

Now without revealing how this was created (or do you plan on revealing your superhuman nature to people) you plan on cashing in on some of the greatest medicine-whatever deals in the history of mankind.

In real life.

Time allows one certain luxuries that those w/o time does not. I can eventually get my own funds (15 years working and I already make pretty good money) and I have all the time in the world to learn genetics and medicine and get the funding for a small personal lab, so I don't see what the problem is.

So yeah, that can work.

And no, I don't expect to get the miracle cure off the bat, but time gives me the luxury of studying and learning about my condition while being at my physical and mental prime for as long as I want to pursue this. So, I don't see what your problem with this is.

Also, I mentioned what I would probably try to do given effectively unlimited time. I even stated that there is a chance I could fail (in which case I would just fake my death and start my life over). This, however, does not apply to all and others may chose a different path. So again, I don't see what your problem with this rationale is coming from.

Originally posted by curryman
You also claim that "rape" never takes place, but it's reaching 10% of the female population in many western countries and in some of the worse areas, India in example, over 75% of women report being sexually abused at one point. But I'll leave you to your dreams.

1) Never claimed rape never takes place, I claimed that the possibility of rape happening to me is far more remote than say heart disease.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Why in the world should I worry about getting held down and raped??

2) The fact that I'm a guy kinda makes your entire statistic utterly meaningless.

3) What the hell is with you and the OP's obsession with rape? Seriously, chill, no one's gonna wanna butt hump you man.

Sooo yeah /facepalm

Originally posted by curryman
My point is that you claim to be living in a "realistic" setting where no violence takes place, you would not be captured despite being possibly the most valuable human being alive, police prevent any crime, you have "armours", you (seemingly with no knowledge of the world) are going to learn and surpass anyone within the field of medicine and genetics in 60 years.

This is not realistic.

I'm 36 years old and the closest thing I've had to a violent crime happening to me was a bar fight with the other guy pulling a knife on me and running away when the police walked by.

And PLEASE read my posts. Never said violence never happens, it does of course, but disease and aging happens far more often.

If anything, I think you watch too many movies and I don't think you really know what the "real world" is if you think it's the wild west for everyone out there. I dunno maybe you just live in a really bad neighborhood.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth, I never said I'd surpass anyone/everyone in the field of genetics and medicine. Just that my unique access to unlimited supply of ultra regenerative cell samples and unlimited supply of time will give me insights that no one else would.

Originally posted by curryman
Your knowledge of how healing factors are portrayed differently in comics is also woefully inadequate, not to mention your knowledge of the character whose durability our powers would stem from.

Lol at this. So what about healing factors was I wrong in? Please quote me before you start throwing around silly accusations.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
supermans been beaten to death by doomsday, so that's a lie

With Logan's HF you can get your head chopped off, body cut in half, melted to liquid, disintegrate through nuclear bombs, etc.

You can't die at all with Superman's durability. It's impossible. But with Logan's HF there are many ways to die.

This is a no brainer puzzle.