Durability vs Healing Factor

Originally posted by StyleTime
I still don't get why some of you are focused on nuclear bombs, getting shot at, and all this other BS.

This is real life, and I doubt most of you get shot at regularly. You could basically enjoy your standard life.....except you'll never get sick and will stay young for a long, long time.

Healing factor is totally the way to go...unless you don't mind getting sick/old I guess.

With Superman's durability you get longevity. Remember aging is because of damage done to the dna over time. Superman's dna is durable. In comics, Superman ages just as slow as Logan or even slower.

There will be another world war, there may be an asteriod to land, you can get your head cut off if someone found out and wanted you dead.

You DO know Leonbucco isn't the OP right? And that the OP hasn't even mentioned Superman durability even once?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
You DO know Leonbucco isn't the OP right? And that the OP hasn't even mentioned Superman durability even once?

Well then why is this thread this long? We must assume some type of super durability if the limit is not given.

Also with HF you can be knocked out, restrained, tortured, head cut off, etc.

I would rather be durable if longevity comes with both.

A better argument would be
HF vs. Durability with no longevity for either one.

Generally speaking, "durability" extends beyond just physical pain tolerance and what your body can endure from trauma and extreme conditions. It also extends to diseases and tolerance to toxins and the like. And virtually every person I've seen in comics with great durability/pseudo-invincibility has an accelerated healing factor of some kind anyway (not instant like Wolverine's or anything, but faster than a normal human).

Originally posted by h1a8
Well then why is this thread this long? We must assume some type of super durability if the limit is not given.

Also with HF you can be knocked out, restrained, tortured, head cut off, etc.

I would rather be durable if longevity comes with both.

A better argument would be
HF vs. Durability with no longevity for either one.

The OP started with "bullet proof" skin and organs (w/c is at best Luke Cage lvl) then changed it to Butterball durability (complete invulnerability, sent to mod for ruling as OP is not allowed to change stips past 2 pages per rules) w/o longevity.

Longevity only comes with HF. If you want to make your own thread with your own stips feel free.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Generally speaking, "durability" extends beyond just physical pain tolerance and what your body can endure from trauma and extreme conditions. It also extends to diseases and tolerance to toxins and the like. And virtually every person I've seen in comics with great durability/pseudo-invincibility has an accelerated healing factor of some kind anyway (not instant like Wolverine's or anything, but faster than a normal human).

Stips started of with "Bullet proof skin and organs and unbreakable bones" as the OP description of durability, tho.

3 pages later he then shifted it to complete invulnerability w/c I think is against forum rules.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Cancer is caused when your own cells mutate due to damaged RNA/DNA, heart attacks are caused by blockage that would starve your heart muscle and cause them to die (thus killing you), on top of that you're still vulnerable to aging w/c invulnerability isn't going to help you with.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah but if your cells are so durable they don't break down do you really have to worry about cancer?

Not really 100% sure on this tbh. Cancer cells are basically mutated cells that exist within your body. So if it's your own mutated cells, wouldn't your cancer cells in turn, share the same durability as your normal cells?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Not really 100% sure on this tbh. Cancer cells are basically mutated cells that exist within your body. So if it's your own mutated cells, wouldn't your cancer cells in turn, share the same durability as your normal cells?

Originally posted by Newjak
Possible. Of course cancer comes from cells faulty reproducing but your cells are durable enough you wouldn't replace them as often. which also makes me think aging would also be slowed down if you are durable enough.

Original stips stated "bullet proof skin/organs and unbreakable bones", tho.

Not sure to what extent your cells would be not needed to be replaced and how well it protects you from cancer and the like. Also, doesn't lack of nutrients/oxygen cause your cells to die just as much as trauma would? Not to mention that some cells are programmed to self destruct (apoptosis)...

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Original stips stated "bullet proof skin/organs and unbreakable bones", tho.

Not sure to what extent your cells would be not needed to be replaced and how well it protects you from cancer and the like. Also, doesn't lack of nutrients/oxygen cause your cells to die just as much as trauma would? Not to mention that some cells are programmed to self destruct (apoptosis)...

your chances of Cancer is actually lower than being analy rape in prison... 😱

Originally posted by Nibedicus
The OP started with "bullet proof" skin and organs (w/c is at best Luke Cage lvl) then changed it to Butterball durability (complete invulnerability, sent to mod for ruling as OP is not allowed to change stips past 2 pages per rules) w/o longevity.

Longevity only comes with HF. If you want to make your own thread with your own stips feel free.

Lastly, did OP make it clear the longevity comes with HF? Or are we assuming that?

The only benefit of HF is longevity (nothing more). And that's if the OP is giving longevity to HF and not durability. You can't take over anything or rule over anything.

With durability I can take over (just get the fire power and the team first).

I still stand by HF
Far more practical, because you can't feel pain and harder to hurt you doesn't mean its more effective then a healing factor
Far more practical, for me anyway, I have a quiet life, I'm not sure about all you guys who are on alert getting shot at and avoiding nuclear bombs day in day out, but a healing factor is far more practical in real life

Originally posted by h1a8
With Superman's durability you get longevity. Remember aging is because of damage done to the dna over time. Superman's dna is durable. In comics, Superman ages just as slow as Logan or even slower.

Originally posted by h1a8
The only benefit of HF is longevity (nothing more).

Originally posted by h1a8
Also with HF you can be knocked out, restrained, tortured, head cut off, etc.

^ 😂 another guy said durability would be more practical due to nuclear bombs, getting shot at etc haha

Originally posted by h1a8
With Superman's durability you get longevity. Remember aging is because of damage done to the dna over time. Superman's dna is durable. In comics, Superman ages just as slow as Logan or even slower.

There will be another world war, there may be an asteriod to land, you can get your head cut off if someone found out and wanted you dead.

superman has nothing to do with being durable just his celluar make up is different... but with durablity comes extreme weakness green rock and red sun for superman....

you can be durable but once sum1 breaks thru your done

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
I still stand by HF
Far more practical, because you can't feel pain and harder to hurt you doesn't mean its more effective then a healing factor
Far more practical, for me anyway, I have a quiet life, I'm not sure about all you guys who are on alert getting shot at and avoiding nuclear bombs day in day out, but a healing factor is far more practical in real life

Ok what reasons is HF better than durability.

Don't say longevity because one can have HF without longevity in comics.
Or one can have durability and also longevity.

With HF you feel pain. With durability you don't.

Originally posted by Shabazz916
superman has nothing to do with being durable just his celluar make up is different... but with durablity comes extreme weakness green rock and red sun for superman....

you can be durable but once sum1 breaks thru your done

Also we are assuming the real world and not comics. In the real world there is nothing to harm you with durability.

With HF you still feel pain and can be killed.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ok what reasons is HF better than durability.

Don't say longevity because one can have HF without longevity in comics.
Or one can have durability and also longevity.

With HF you feel pain. With durability you don't.

Immune to ALL types of disease, illness and viruses. HF takes that department.
Make money, change the world, give blood samples for research, pass the ability on through you kids
Regrow lost limbs, heal cuts, recover from accidents

Being durable just means your tougher to cut, and feel less pain(nothing more) which I personally would fine useless