Originally posted by Philosophía
I don't think there's an 'all-out' and 'average' Thor in the way there's an 'all out Superman' and 'average Superman'.As in if, say, Thor confronts somebody like Hulk, then he's generally 'all out' in terms of physical strength, while if he confronts Iron Man, he will always be 'holding back' [JMS notwithstanding]. Superman, on the other hand, will always hold back his strength, both against Iron Man and Thor, nearly everytime. He has to actively have events trigger his war-numb mode [like it was in OWAW] in order for him to fully access his full strength. And at that level, he can one-shot beings that give his 'average all-out mode' a very hard time [again, OWAW]. Superman's power is regulated by his mindset, and it's subconscious in a very different way that any other heroes.
These are just randoms, and they don't really paint a clear picture, but:
Thor (against Iron Man) - 70
Thor (against Hulk) - 90
Superman (average) - 110
Superman (all-out) - 180
I know. Not everyone does that though.
Nice ratings.
Originally posted by Digi
I would rate Thor a 9 and Superman a 7.5. The long blond hair does it for me.fdog
uhuh
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
1. Average Thor
2. All out Thor
3. Average Superman
4. All out Superman1. 100
2. 150
3. 110
4. 170So far I'm the most accurate. Supes exhibits a little more str on average and prolly adds a little more going all out.
🙂
Don't flatter yourself. Want to compare feats? Superman is at least 25% stronger than Thor at average levels if not more. Thor hasn't shown so much strength increase upon not holding back.
Re: Re: Rate Superman and Thor
Originally posted by celeyhyga17These are rankings I could agree to.
1. Average Thor
2. All out Thor
3. Average Superman
4. All out Superman1. 100
2. 150
3. 110
4. 170So far I'm the most accurate. Supes exhibits a little more str on average and prolly adds a little more going all out.
🙂
Re: Re: Rate Superman and Thor
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
1. Average Thor
2. All out Thor
3. Average Superman
4. All out Superman1. 100
2. 150
3. 110
4. 170So far I'm the most accurate. Supes exhibits a little more str on average and prolly adds a little more going all out.
🙂
This is just about right.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't flatter yourself. Want to compare feats? Superman is at least 25% stronger than Thor at average levels if not more.
Wow...
Jeez.. Don't get so bent out of shape just because of recent showings. I'm sure Supes will add to his library under Pak. Snyder will probably throw him a bone in Superman Unchained as well...
Ure gonna pop a blood vessel.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wow...Jeez.. Don't get so bent out of shape just because of recent showings. I'm sure Supes will add to his library under Pak. Snyder will probably throw him a bone in Superman Unchained as well...
Ure gonna pop a blood vessel.
Preboot superman's strength feats shit on anything Thor has done even taking this hyperbolic feat into consideration. You are talking about shattering moons and shit with several strikes? Talk about holding a black hole which would've destroyed the whole solar system in your hand.
Pak's superman would destroy Thor like his hulk did. Thor's a small god after all.
Originally posted by Digi
I am a straight dude, but Thor is definitely better looking than Superman.#truth
Originally posted by celeyhyga17Most of these ratings people are posting are just arbitrary numbers with no real meaning to them.
Nuttin wrong wit dat. More power to ure people!!You can choose whoever u want to schmooze with Digi! Just give me a 10 mile wide berth..
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These numbers, without any context or data corresponding to those ratings, really don't show how large or small of an increase not holding back gives them.
But I think most every one will agree
Superman is slightly stronger than Thor when they are both holding back. When they are both going all out the gap between them is wider but still not significant.
Originally posted by Newjak
Most of these ratings people are posting are just arbitrary numbers with no real meaning to them.These numbers, without any context or data corresponding to those ratings, really don't show how large or small of an increase not holding back gives them.
But I think most every one will agree
Superman is slightly stronger than Thor when they are both holding back. When they are both going all out the gap between them is wider but still not significant.
Originally posted by abhilegend
What do you think?
I know how it's gonna end. You're gonna bring up a certain strength feat, interpret it a certain way, then I'd just end up debunking ure interpretation.
I'd rather do that little by little. That's too time consuming.
A scan blitz would just be too annoying.
Originally posted by abhilegendBy going feat for feat with you?
Prove it.
First off, I wouldn't do that because I've seen how you debate and I don't want anything to do with you in that department. You constantly throw tons of scans ignoring their context and lowball highball argue with characters. Something I don't want a part of.
Secondly this argument has been done to death in every Superman vs Thor thread in existence. And the arguments for both sides have already been made better than you and I could probably do.
The situation has remained the same throughout the years. Thor is top tier in strength because he has some really great feats and writer's are willing to give him that level of strength. Due to the nature of the character's though Superman will always possess more quantity of strength feats and also due to the nature of the character's better strength feats. Which is why most people agree Superman is above but not greatly above.
About the only people who argue against that are fanboys who have wet dreams of their favorite character completely dominating the other in a fictional dick measuring contest of strength.
I'm tired of that.
I'm already considering closing this thread because I feel it's somewhat of a bait thread and probably a duplicate thread knowing how many threads like this have been made before.
I will leave it open for now, but Abhi don't hassle people.
Edit:
I see Bada wasn't in a good mood like I was 😛