Who are the scarier villains in their own universes

Started by quanchi1129 pages

Originally posted by BloodRain
Threat level, reach, general reaction to him. The only thing thats impressive from Tom is the name thing, which most thought was cursed. Until HP5 everyone who didnt speak his name thought he was dead, so not so much a fear of him especially the students. Post HP5 you had Demontors stopping people from saying it (was told this), so less to do with fear of him. People feared Sauraon on the level at which Harry feared the dememors, and I dont believe anyone feared Tom this much(?).
We see McGonagall saying you might as well say his name Hes going o kill you either way. We see even his own Deatheaters were scared shitless of him in Malfoy Manor. What movies were you watching ? They wouldn't even make eye contact they were scared shitless. We see Sauron enter the battlefield and start knocking people back. Sure, they are scared but they do meet him head on. His own men were never terrified of him to the extent Voldemorts own men were.

People feared Voldemort far worse than Harry initially feared the Dementors. Harry had to face Voldemort but he was scared as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see a human overcoming fear to take him on. We see the Minister of Magic shit his pants at the sight of Lord Voldemort.
We also see Neville pull a sword out on him.

Originally posted by NemeBro
We also see Neville pull a sword out on him.
He got wtf ko'd. We see the human kill Sauron after about 30 or so seconds.

Voldemort is on another level of fear.

All versus forum, let's take a look at the books too guys.

Books Sauron: Sauron almost single handedly turned the tide of battle just by showing up. He had everybody pissing their pants. He hung with Balrogs.

Voldemort: People pissed their pants if they knew about him . I personally view him as lesser, because he was unknown to muggles. Sauron was known to even the most secluded people, if jsut as, "The Enemy".

Vader follows just up. THe whole galaxy was scared of him, but not nearly as much, since a lot weren't rebels.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He got wtf ko'd. We see the human kill Sauron after about 30 or so seconds.

Voldemort is on another level of fear.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This has nothing to do with overall formidability.

Originally posted by NemeBro
We see both characters oppose the guy they feared. One won one did not.

Voldemort was more feared than Sauron was.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see both characters oppose the guy they feared. One won one did not.
Originally posted by quanchi112
This has nothing to do with overall formidability.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Voldemort was more feared. His own men were scared shitless of him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort was more feared. His own men were scared shitless of him.
So were Sauron's.

Originally posted by NemeBro
So were Sauron's.
Based on ?

Actually, the orcs serving Sauron out of fear might have been book-only.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Actually, the orcs serving Sauron out of fear might have been book-only.
So you agree Voldemort now takes this then.

Not really.

It is the sort of thing that can't be quantified, as I said in my first post.

I'd say it is comfortably between Sauron and Voldemort though.

Although, Palpatine as a contender is interesting. The public don't really fear him, they barely know him at all. But among those that work for him? There does seem to be an atmosphere of dread surrounding his name. Remember, in the words of Vader: "The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am."

Sauron wins. As brought up the entire world feared Sauron and only a small number(wizards and magical creatures) feared Voldemort. Plus many children chose to stand up to Vold regardless of the consequences.

Voldemort is balls.

Is that good or bad?

He was fighting against children and he lost.
You decide.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Not really.

It is the sort of thing that can't be quantified, as I said in my first post.

I'd say it is comfortably between Sauron and Voldemort though.

Although, Palpatine as a contender is interesting. The public don't really fear him, they barely know him at all. But among those that work for him? There does seem to be an atmosphere of dread surrounding his name. Remember, in the words of Vader: "The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am."

You can't pinpoint an edge for Sauron though. That's why you should acknowledge Voldemort wins.

Vader knows the truth but the general public does not. He's a politician.

Originally posted by juggerman
Sauron wins. As brought up the entire world feared Sauron and only a small number(wizards and magical creatures) feared Voldemort. Plus many children chose to stand up to Vold regardless of the consequences.
Who in Harry Potters world did not fear him ?

People stood up against Sauron despite the consequences. Sauron was also beaten fair and square in combat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who in Harry Potters world did not fear him ?

People stood up against Sauron despite the consequences. Sauron was also beaten fair and square in combat.

Muggles

Does affect the fear. Those same guys wouldn't be able to beat Doc Manhattan fair and square but they wouldn't fear him like they did Sauron