Hulk vs Superman (with a Twist)

Originally posted by quanchi112
He specified sun dipped Superman so I said WB Hulk. I never argued for this thread just compared him to his sun dipped Superman.

Not the same thing.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not the same thing.

Seeing as the OP never mentioned pre-reboot Supes, isn't this DCnU Superman?

Originally posted by quanchi112
He can't use sun dipped Superman just as I can't argue for WB Hulk.

The OP sort of says he can.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Seeing as the OP never mentioned pre-reboot Supes, isn't this DCnU Superman?

Yup.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The OP sort of says he can.

Yup.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree unless you feel or are saying this amp is just the same as taking a sundip. Is that your opinion ?

If Superman is getting a constant supply of solar energy that's constantly topping up his power, how is it not an amp?

Does DCnU Superman even have sundip "feats"?

Originally posted by -Pr-
If Superman is getting a constant supply of solar energy that's constantly topping up his power, how is it not an amp?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Does DCnU Superman even have sundip "feats"?

Not yet, no.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is an amp I am disputing its anywhere near the exponential increase he gets taking a sundip.

Obviously it isn't, but it's still incredibly fast due to his anger.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not yet, no.

Obviously it isn't, but it's still incredibly fast due to his anger.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thats why it isn't usable just like WB Hulk since both amps are significantly greater than this thread lets them achieve.

So you're trying to argue that preboot feats aren't usable in a post reboot thread based on the fact that it's not a sundip, rather than just saying "it's a different Superman"... Really?

On a separate note, not even sure if the "blinding anger" side effect even helps the Hulk here. Isn't he pretty much at that stage already but he manages to somehow focus it go get a higher benefit from it than ever before?

Originally posted by -Pr-
So you're trying to argue that preboot feats aren't usable in a post reboot thread based on the fact that it's not a sundip, rather than just saying "it's a different Superman"... Really?

Sundipped feats don't apply just like WB feats don't apply. Much higher amp than in this thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I'm saying this amp he is getting Wouldnt be comparable to a sundip amp. I never argued if this was NuSuperman or not.

Sundipped feats don't apply just like WB feats don't apply. Much higher amp than in this thread.

It would be comparable; it would just take longer to achieve is all.

if n52 Superman had sundipped feats, they would certainly apply.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It would be comparable; it would just take longer to achieve is all.

if n52 Superman had sundipped feats, they would certainly apply.

He doesn't so it does not matter here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't think so. Feel free to disagree though.

He doesn't so it does not matter here.

Then you'd be wrong. shrug

Originally posted by -Pr-
Then you'd be wrong. shrug

Originally posted by quanchi112
Like I'm ever wrong. You're talking crazy.

lol.

I'm going to have to disagree with PR.
The OP was pretty fair with the amps. If we go with your reasoning I feel that the hulk (Not WBH) if starting from base levels is already high herald at base has a greater amp. He didn't limit either the hulk or superman, the hulk if made angry enough and lets loose will reach wbh levels under the conditions of this thread. Basically this is no holds barred with massive amps.
hulk gets an outside device to get more angry than humanly possible and will keep increasing, potentially unlimited intensity of anger and strength, while if superman isn't given a sundip is capped, will heal superman from any injuries and restore his offensive attributes attributes but won't increase his dynamic strength levels, just have him operate at 100% at all times. This is an unfair advantage for the hulk who wasn't capped nor was it stated that hulk can't enter wbh mode which would put a cap on him.

I also assumed that we were going by pre flashpoint, because 1) we dont know how dcnu will operate with a Sun amp/sundip
2) op clarified that it was a sundippd amp, since dcnu superman doesnt have a sundip feat further points towards pre flashpoint superman.

if no sundip, superman doesn't knock out hulk, its an eternal stalemate.
with sundip, superman wins.

So you disagree about the WBH thing, then?