Justice League (DCaU) VS Graviton (EMH)

Started by Nibedicus3 pages

Just bringing it up cuz of this rule, tho:

"Comics released strictly online or on web sites will not be considered proof in the Comic Book Versus Forum."

I think if a mod would be so kind as to rule on the admissability of the digital comic, then I think we can get this thread going in the right direction.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Just bringing it up cuz of this rule, tho:

"Comics released strictly online or on web sites will not be considered proof in the Comic Book Versus Forum."

I think if a mod would be so kind as to rule on the admissability of the digital comic, then I think we can get this thread going in the right direction.


For the comics. Its not a comic based fight. Also Batman Beyond has been in print before several times, most famously in Superman/Batman annual 4. So you lose.

😛

I meant this specific comic. Superman beyond, isn't it? 😛

It's not really win/lose for me, it just depends on admissability on w/c team I vote for. If digital comic is allowed, then JLA. If not, Avengers.

Just as soon as a mod comes in and rules. 🙂

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I meant this specific comic. Superman beyond, isn't it? 😛

It's not really win/lose for me, it just depends on admissability on w/c team I vote for. If digital comic is allowed, then JLA. If not, Avengers.

Just as soon as a mod comes in and rules. 🙂


It was also published as a 48 pages monthly comic book like smallville season 11. You lose again.😛

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was also published as a 48 pages monthly comic book like smallville season 11. You lose again.😛

Was the issue where the "feat" was showcased released in comic form, tho?

I bring this up cuz from the wiki it looks like at least some issues of Superman Beyond were planned to be initially released as a comic but from all the reviews I'm reading, it looks like it's purely digital only.

And also:

Originally posted by Nibedicus
It's not really win/lose for me, it just depends on admissability on w/c team I vote for. If digital comic is allowed, then JLA. If not, Avengers.

😛

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Was the issue where the "feat" was showcased released in comic form, tho?

I bring this up cuz from the wiki it looks like at least some issues of Superman Beyond were planned to be initially released as a comic but from all the reviews I'm reading, it looks like it's purely digital only.

And also:

😛


Yes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes.

Strange, it says digital comic wherever I go, source?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Strange, it says digital comic wherever I go, source?

I'm trying to understand why a comic is being brought into a cartoon discussion?

Originally posted by Stoic
I'm trying to understand why a comic is being brought into a cartoon discussion?

Well, he says it's canon to the cartoon. Would really like a mos ruling as these thing iz confoozing.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Strange, it says digital comic wherever I go, source?

Wikipedia.

😛

Originally posted by Stoic
I'm trying to understand why a comic is being brought into a cartoon discussion?

Its canon to the cartoon.

You can't use the feat, as it doesn't apply to this Superman.

lol @ Hulk being stronger than the League combined though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wikipedia.

Knew it! Lol. 😛

The wiki is a bit iffy. Checked online retailers and reviews and such and they said "digital comic".

Originally posted by -Pr-
You can't use the feat, as it doesn't apply to this Superman..

And this, too.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its a superman that was specifically stated to be the same superman from TAS/JL/JLU in Batman Beyond which is absolutely canon to JLU and the comic is canon to the show. No amount of back-pedaling would change that. Why is a different character despite being clearly depicted as the same superman except your "Nuh-uh"?

Its not PIS since he had the eradicator suit protecting him most of the time and when he actually came in contact with kryptonite, he was in danger of dying. Its superman, he does the impossible all the time.

You're not fit to join House of El's fodder rank thorbag. Go to the small world where your small god's fans resides.
Its canon to the show. That's all that matter.

Looks like I was right (again). It's clearly a different version of Superman, albeit one from the same "universe".

So he had protection most of the time? Nice omission of context, there. And yeah, considering random Kryptonite blasts from Luthor's suit hurt Superman pretty badly and slivers of the rock caused him to be sick, it's absolutely PIS if an already weakened Superman can move a MOON sized chunk of the stuff (especially considering Superman's had issues moving things far less bigger in the Timmverse). And no, Superman isn't immune to PIS, sorry to admit it. Unless there's a shit load more context you've "conveniently" left out, that feat is either PIS or easily such an extreme outlier from an alternate version of Superman it doesn't even matter. Moot point, though, as said by PR.

Lol, considering I don't warp showings, create bait threads, get mods constantly telling me to stop being a dick and wind up consistently misrepresenting myself or appearing as disingenuous on Superman's behalf, I'd say I'm the ideal of hope for the House of El.

Plus I've forgotten more about Superman than you'll ever know. 😎

Like I said, you can be the inferior Kon-El to my Kal-El.

Even if Superman Beyond comics would be allowed here his older self obviously is faster, stronger and seemingly has more resistance to kryptonite. That crazy super speed he showed in one of his stories where they refered to him as 'ghost' or something is well beyond anything his Younger animated self showed so I don't think his feats can be used to prop up his younger self.

Graviton was a beast so this should be a good fight.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You can't use the feat, as it doesn't apply to this Superman.

lol @ Hulk being stronger than the League combined though.


Its the same superman pr. How about I prove it to you?

You didn't comment about Giant man being stronger than superman though. Figured.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Looks like I was right (again). It's clearly a different version of Superman, albeit one from the same "universe".

So he had protection most of the time? Nice omission of context, there. And yeah, considering random Kryptonite blasts from Luthor's suit hurt Superman pretty badly and slivers of the rock caused him to be sick, it's absolutely PIS if an already weakened Superman can move a MOON sized chunk of the stuff (especially considering Superman's had issues moving things far less bigger in the Timmverse). And no, Superman isn't immune to PIS, sorry to admit it. Unless there's a shit load more context you've "conveniently" left out, that feat is either PIS or easily such an extreme outlier from an alternate version of Superman it doesn't even matter. Moot point, though, as said by PR.

Lol, considering I don't warp showings, create bait threads, get mods constantly telling me to stop being a dick and wind up consistently misrepresenting myself or appearing as disingenuous on Superman's behalf, I'd say I'm the ideal of hope for the House of El.

Plus I've forgotten more about Superman than you'll ever know. 😎

Like I said, you can be the inferior Kon-El to my Kal-El.


That's not a Mod ruling. Don't get too happy. Its the same superman not an alternate superman. You are literally going against what the comic and the show told us. Heck Terry went back in time to meet superman in Superman Adventures 64 and it was clearly stated that he was the same superman as the Batman Beyond future.

You didn't ask for the context.

uhuh

This is the whole scene btw.

Superman deflected a asteroid large enough to destroy all life on earth. Superman has done those things on regular.

You can dream bro.

Don't get cocky jake. Go back to your asgardia. Then you've to print your own comics, since I've read every superman stories. I will destroy you in anything superman related knowledge.

You won't even be a kryptonian under my regime filthy thorbag.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Even if Superman Beyond comics would be allowed here his older self obviously is faster, stronger and seemingly has more resistance to kryptonite. That crazy super speed he showed in one of his stories where they refered to him as 'ghost' or something is well beyond anything his Younger animated self showed so I don't think his feats can be used to prop up his younger self.

Graviton was a beast so this should be a good fight.


It was specifically stated that he was weaker than his younger self in Batman Beyond.

That ghost thing was because he was sending those thugs to Phantom Zone from above, not because he was blitzing them.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was specifically stated that he was weaker than his younger self in Batman Beyond.

That ghost thing was because he was sending those thugs to Phantom Zone from above, not because he was blitzing them.


Forgot all about the phantom Zone aspect of that, thanks for the refresher.

Figured what, exactly?

It wasn't in the show, so it doesn't count. Simple as that. Barring the fact that we don't allow future feats to apply to characters anyway, it's still a completely different medium.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Figured what, exactly?

It wasn't in the show, so it doesn't count. Simple as that. Barring the fact that we don't allow future feats to apply to characters anyway, it's still a completely different medium.


So, even though it was referenced in the comic adaptation of Superman: TAS, JLU and Batman Beyond that the future Superman is really the Superman from S:TAS/JL/JLU, its non canon?

Because they are different characters as per marvel cosmology. This example would be ignoring Mon-el's feats from Legion and only accepting his present day feats because the feats from the future are not applicable.

I politely argue you to reconsider your position. I would post proofs soon.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So, even though it was referenced in the comic adaptation of Superman: TAS, JLU and Batman Beyond that the future Superman is really the Superman from S:TAS/JL/JLU, its non canon?

Because they are different characters as per marvel cosmology. This example would be ignoring Mon-el's feats from Legion and only accepting his present day feats because the feats from the future are not applicable.

I politely argue you to reconsider your position. I would post proofs soon.

I've read the comic.

Even if you wanted to argue that it's the same universe, it's still not Superman as he was in JLU (yes, I know the weaker argument), and wasn't a feat he, during those seasons, performed. If we allowed that, then we'd have to allow the feats from the JLU comic too, and that isn't going to happen.

Them being separate mediums alone disqualifies them. For the purposes of the forum, they're separate.