Justice League (DCaU) VS Graviton (EMH)

Originally posted by -Pr-
I've read the comic.

Even if you wanted to argue that it's the same universe, it's still not Superman as he was in JLU (yes, I know the weaker argument), and wasn't a feat he, during those seasons, performed. If we allowed that, then we'd have to allow the feats from the JLU comic too, and that isn't going to happen.

Them being separate mediums alone disqualifies them. For the purposes of the forum, they're separate.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Graviton stomps season 1 with ease

League wins if season 2 (aka unlimited)

Unlimited was seasons 3 and 4.

Season 1 and 2 of regular Justice Leagues superman were completely different. During season 1 superman was a wimp and jobbed to everything to show how powerful the threats were. Fans complained and they did Superman right in season 2.

I agree that S1 loses and S2 wins.

Originally posted by abhilegend

That's not a Mod ruling. Don't get too happy. Its the same superman not an alternate superman. You are literally going against what the comic and the show told us. Heck Terry went back in time to meet superman in Superman Adventures 64 and it was clearly stated that he was the same superman as the Batman Beyond future.

You didn't ask for the context.

uhuh

This is the whole scene btw.

Superman deflected a asteroid large enough to destroy all life on earth. Superman has done those things on regular.

You can dream bro.

Don't get cocky jake. Go back to your asgardia. Then you've to print your own comics, since I've read every superman stories. I will destroy you in anything superman related knowledge.

You won't even be a kryptonian under my regime filthy thorbag.

It's not the same guy for purposes of debating. It's him from the future. This is obvious stuff. Present selves =/= future selves. No amount of spin control will make Superman Beyond be the same character as Superman from the animated series in forum terms, let alone allow you to feat share to push the obvious agenda here.

I'm at work, so I'll look into the scans in greater detail with time permitting.

You realize how asteroids work, right? An asteroid doesn't have to be anywhere near close to moon or planet sized to destroy all life on the planet upon impact. So screaming "he stopped an asteroid!" in response to the obvious absurdly outlier instance of him stopping a moon made out of the very substance that is lethal to him while already being weakened doesn't begin to make sense. If this was comic book Superman, you'd have something of a point, but it's not, and not even the same guy, so you don't.

Having a bunch of torrents at your disposal =/= being a knowledgeable and trustworthy Superman fan.

Face it, you're just like Zod: a rogue Kryptonian criminal whose zeal to support his people only backfires as you slip further and further into instability and madness. Eventually, you're going to go too far and either be Phantom Zone'd or get your neck snapped.

I may have to allow Jake to fight Philo for ownership of the House of El.

The House of Curry (heh) needs to be built up some.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its not an alternate reality. Its the "future" of JLU as shown in the JLU season four finale which also featured the end of Batman Beyond. Its as canon for JLU as Smallvile season 11 and Buffy comics to the TV shows. So nothing here for you bro. Also Lawlz @ decades later.

I read what you posted just fine. Even if we go by what was shown in the show, Superman deflected an asteroid large enough to destroy all life on earth. That's still leagues beyond what hulk did. Also giant man was stronger than superman because he threw a tanker at graviton, right? Hahahaha.

I should've said "inflating Thor's value by being a hulk mark"

That future was only a potential future no? Also, what's amusing? That comic was decades later.

I don't remember Superman having the strength level to throw a tanker like that in Season 1. I know he turned an asteroid around in space at some point in TAS but by Season 1 JL, he was even weaker then he was at the end of TAS where he got nerfed a bit. Not sure what's so hard to understand, the Superman in that picture was incredibly weak by most standards.

Also, if you want to get into a pissing contest, Graviton had the power of a fundamental force of the Universe, he wouldn't stop bragging about how he had the power of a black hole or whatever.

For someone who bitches about how he's persecuted, you have no problem jumping at names the moment someone disagrees with you.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You can't use the feat, as it doesn't apply to this Superman.

lol @ Hulk being stronger than the League combined though.

Why? At the end there, he most likely was a lot stronger then the JL put together as they were in the first Season. The Avengers too probably even with Thor.

Why are we using the first season versions? Did I miss a post?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why are we using the first season versions? Did I miss a post?

I don't know, it's just what I went with based on the picture. Depends on the OP I guess. If we use end of series, they became noticeably more formidable, particularly Superman. I can see that Justice League winning.

That was the one I was using lol

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why are we using the first season versions? Did I miss a post?

We aren't. I just questioned which version because s1 superman =\= s2 superman

Yeah I envisioned the end of series versions in this fight. I questioned how big of a difference it would make between end of JLU league and end of JL league.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank

Having a bunch of torrents at your disposal =/= being a knowledgeable and trustworthy Superman fan.

Face it, you're just like Zod: a rogue Kryptonian criminal whose zeal to support his people only backfires as you slip further and further into instability and madness. Eventually, you're going to go too far and either be Phantom Zone'd or get your neck snapped.

Damn son....

lol...

Phantom Zone.

😖hifty:

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Yeah I envisioned the end of series versions in this fight. I questioned how big of a difference it would make between end of JLU league and end of JL league.

The difference is reasonably big, though Superman did have a few decent showings during the JL series.

Abhi=

Jake =

I do think Superman had some pretty lame showings during the first season of JL, but towards the end, he was the big man on campus. JLU was pretty clear who the strongest guy on the team was.

On topic, Graviton should give the team hell and then some. I

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I do think Superman had some pretty lame showings during the first season of JL, but towards the end, he was the big man on campus. JLU was pretty clear who the strongest guy on the team was.

On topic, Graviton should give the team hell and then some. I

Right. It's not an easy fight anyway it goes.

@Rage...

Tony read Graviton power level and seen that he was generating the force of a black hole and Hulk powered through all of that power. Insane.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I do think Superman had some pretty lame showings during the first season of JL, but towards the end, he was the big man on campus. JLU was pretty clear who the strongest guy on the team was.

On topic, Graviton should give the team hell and then some. I

It started when I noticed that Superman needed a suit to go into space. What kinda crap is that?