HERCULES vs HULK

Originally posted by mighty adam
You people act like the hulk dont get k.oed before he's allowed to get mad enough to get stronger. Hulk doesn't start at limitless strength LV immortal herc, supes, DD do. How many times have hulk got he's ass beat and couldn't amp shit wolverine has put him down. Namor sentry bats supes fck outta you ignorant ass fanboys.

It doesn't happen very often at all. What? Hulk's base at this point is easily around Hercules level (Depending on the writer anyway) have you not been keeping up with the character at all?

How many times has Hulk gotten beat up? Very rarely if ever, and certainly not by someone on Hercules' level. At least not in the last two decades.

I'm an ignorant ass fanboy? For what? Pointing out the facts?

Originally posted by mighty adam
You people act like the hulk dont get k.oed before he's allowed to get mad enough to get stronger. Hulk doesn't start at limitless strength LV immortal herc, supes, DD do. How many times have hulk got he's ass beat and couldn't amp shit wolverine has put him down. Namor sentry bats supes fck outta you ignorant ass fanboys.

Read the rules, please.

Originally posted by carver9
What's up with your Hulk hate MightyAdam.? Why so many threads with the character? When making threads, why do you downplay him and make spite threads that you yourself judge as a stomp? What's the purpose and what had the character done to you?

Adam:

Originally posted by -Pr-

Hulk: "Calm Hulk" is a misnomer. In the case of almost any Hulk, he starts off VS battles at (like most characters) his average level. So, say... Savage Hulk doesn't start off class 85, and people can't argue things like "Maybe if they knock him out before he can get too strong, they can win". As far as his limit goes, yes, while there's the whole "madder = stronger" aspect of the character, that doesn't mean you get to apply a no-limits fallacy to it. His feats are more than enough ammunition to use to win debates.

Hulk's incarnations: If a Hulk is stated as amped, then he's amped. WWH-arc Hulk can, more often than not, accomplish something Savage did, WBH can accomplish something WWH-arc Hulk did, and so on. From now on, people using "WWH" as a term to describe Hulk, will have the Hulk in their thread restricted to using feats from the arc. WWH is not the character description. Green Scar, WBH, or HOTM would be more fitting.

Please refrain from using the "before he gets strong enough" argument. It's flawed even without the ruling.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Read the rules, please.

Originally posted by mighty adam
yea yea I read em awhile back. Fights are within character so hulk doesn't start at a limitless LV. How about so new rules for stupidity in the forums.

Don't bash.

And no, not what I was referring to. I even quoted it for you above.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Adam:

Please refrain from using the "before he gets strong enough" argument. It's flawed even without the ruling.

Look at herc skill and powerset best fighter in MU. Limitless strength. Has armor and mace that's indestructible. I was tryin to be nice by not giving it to him for this fight. Herc is so much more then some other bricks 🙄

Hulk starts every forum battle far beyond class 100 like Thor, namor, WW. He doesn't start out limitless strength LV like immortal herc, supes, BA-CM pre boot. Hulk can and has and will continue to get his shit rocked before he can reach his upper limitless potential. DEAL with it people. Anyways back to the match up at hand. Hulks speed would increase, I know herc is the king of pankres or wat ever. I'm pretty sure he can get him in a sleeper hold or coke or just break his neck for a k.o. Plus he can just out box him since he invented boxing.

When has Herc been written as having "infinite strength"?

Originally posted by mighty adam
was he at a high LV vs Zeus no. How about all the times wolverine put him down no he wasn't.

Why are you bringing up Zeus in a thread with Hercules? It's like saying Surfer would beat a guy because Galactus did. Makes no sense.

Also, how many times exactly has Wolverine been able to put down Hulk and how? Examine the one or two times this happened and the context involved. Death Wolverine gaining the advantage over Hulk by using Hulk's own strength momentum for a throat injury and Wolverine gutting and temporarily dropping Grey Hulk hardly translate into a possible victory for Hercules. Especially since his healing factor nowadays makes such injuries irrelevant.

Hulk starts off at around Hercules' level currently and can easily get noticeably stronger. Skill won't be enough to save him, not nowadays.

Wow, why are people having meltdowns this weekend??

Hulk clearly (and without any great effort) wins the first one and he clearly is out of his league in the second one.

so 1) 10/10 to Hulk and 2) 10/10 to CK Herc.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk starts off at around Hercules' level currently and can easily get noticeably stronger. Skill won't be enough to save him, not nowadays.

It's true though, Hulk's "walk around strength" is at the Thor/Herc levels. So the slim hope that mightyA is grasping at evaporates faster than Herc's no claims bonus on his medical insurance.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
When has Herc been written as having "infinite strength"?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why are you bringing up Zeus in a thread with Hercules? It's like saying Surfer would beat a guy because Galactus did. Makes no sense.

Also, how many times exactly has Wolverine been able to put down Hulk and how? Examine the one or two times this happened and the context involved. Death Wolverine gaining the advantage over Hulk by using Hulk's own strength momentum for a throat injury and Wolverine gutting and temporarily dropping Grey Hulk hardly translate into a possible victory for Hercules. Especially since his healing factor nowadays makes such injuries irrelevant.

Hulk starts off at around Hercules' level currently and can easily get noticeably stronger. Skill won't be enough to save him, not nowadays.

Originally posted by mighty adam
immortal herc always had limitless strength. Depowered herc is still 100 tons but not very durable.

Hell, Pre-retcon Beyonder saw him as a peer in terms of infinite powers lol!

Top that! 😛

Originally posted by mighty adam
immortal herc durability is insane plus hes not a dumb rock like Thor throwing away his tools forgetting his fighting skill. His skill will allow him to overcome hulks speed advantage. For a slight win.

Hercules' "skill" is in grappling - ie, making physical contact with his opponent and then attempting to use leverage, strength and cunning.

Current Hulk would simply crush him.

Originally posted by mighty adam
was he at a high LV vs Zeus no. How about all the times wolverine put him down no he wasn't. And all FIGHTS ARE WITHIN CHARACTER SO YES HE DOESN'T START ANY FIGHT UNLESS ITS HOTM HULK AT INSANE LVS. the point of this post is beyond me. No I'm not saying herc will k.o him in one punch in first fight. READ MY WORDS AFTER A GOOD FIGHT HERC WIN!!!! no I won't use bs logic like herc sees hulk sitting by the river and one shots him with out it even being a fight. That's some stupid shit a hulk fan would try to say I'm not of the class 😄 anyways nice chatting with you. By the way wat do you think of immortal herc I think marvel should push him more.

Who's talking about Zeus?

What times Wolverine put him down?

Also, you're really going to have to tone down the baiting, tbh. I think we've talked about this before, and it's only going to get you banned.

Just, please, follow the rules from now on.

Originally posted by janus77
"Limitless strength" does not mean that Herc is infinitely strong, otherwise Savage Hulk would be infinitely strong as he has been stated (repeatedly and throughout the decades by narration and other characters) to have "Limitless strength".

Hell, Pre-retcon Beyonder saw him as a peer in terms of infinite powers lol!

Top that! 😛

Originally posted by -Pr-
Who's talking about Zeus?

What times Wolverine put him down?

Also, you're really going to have to tone down the baiting, tbh. I think we've talked about this before, and it's only going to get you banned.

Just, please, follow the rules from w on.