Helspont Vs Atrocitus

Originally posted by -Pr-
Huh?

ikr?

You didn't understand what i wrote?

Just don't understand how the comparison is relevant.

Originally posted by Stoic
@ abhilegend, you will have to prove the retcon, because Majestic still has the same powers. The only thing that I saw them do was exand on his origin, but aside from that, he looks the same, and uses his powers the same, so i assume that he is essentially the same Daemonite that he was before the New U came into being.

^ He's no longer a Kherubim? OK I'll take your word for it, but does that also mean that he is no longer a magical being? Also what proof do you have that the Daemonites are no longer magical or quasi magical beings? In order to reel this back to my first point on the subject, and not to stray from it, I strongly believe that Attrocitus would be able to resist the forces than incapacitated Superman, simply because he is both Psi/TP resistant, and magical resistant, both of which the inexperienced Superman was not, and perhaps still is not.

I am also not convinced that Helspont is a Trans tier yet, simply because he was able to exploit Superman's weaknesses like he appeared to do in their first meetings. Also Apollo was clearly compared to Superman in terms of power, and J'onn is nearly as powerful as Superman. Atrocitus was running through them like they were below his level of power. So I can't understand how anyone would automatically place Helspont above him so quickly just because he exploited an inexperienced Superman.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Just don't understand how the comparison is relevant.

Ah Ok, I understand. I used Teth because he is a magical being, and has pretty good resistance to magic. Which makes me believe that he would also be a good match up for Helspont, whereas Superman would not be due to Helspont's ability to exploit a Kryptonian on that level (low magical resistance). Helspont said that he knew, and encountered Kryptonians in the past if you recall, which hinted on him being able to deal with them effectively. Unless I am remembering wrong that is.

You have to still give a proof that Helspont is magical. Before reboot he might be magical as I don't know anything about him but after reboot there is zero proof that Daemonites and Helspont are megical. You are asking me to prove a negative. First give a proof that Daemonites are magical in DCnU.

^ You read what I wrote. I won't run around in circles with you Abhi.

Originally posted by Stoic
^ You read what I wrote. I won't run around in circles with you Abhi.

Did anyone read Voodoo? Helspont was in that and I thought his origins and homeplace was somewhat mystical.

If Helspont was rebooted just like the others, then his preboot stuff won't count.

Was he rebooted?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Did anyone read Voodoo? Helspont was in that and I thought his origins and homeplace was somewhat mystical.

what issue? I only read the first 2-3 issues of that book.

I'm not sure, I thought it was once Voodoo got on the planet. Helspont was different from the rest of his race, which is why i was thinking mystical related. Not entirely sure.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If Helspont was rebooted just like the others, then his preboot stuff won't count.

Was he rebooted?

what issue? I only read the first 2-3 issues of that book.

LOL@this thread

Originally posted by Golgo13
I'm not sure, I thought it was once Voodoo got on the planet. Helspont was different from the rest of his race, which is why i was thinking mystical related. Not entirely sure.

ah okay.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course he was rebooted.

that's why I asked.

so post reboot, we need to nail down whether he's magical or not.

Originally posted by -Pr-
ah okay.

that's why I asked.

so post reboot, we need to nail down whether he's magical or not.