Originally posted by quanchi112
She was still more violent but still did what she wanted. Different the another sentient being having control over you.
Midna and Ganondorf are different species and Midna's Twili nature is what allows her use the Fused Shadows the way she does, and she's still affected by them. Ganondorf does not have the natural Twili affinity, so his resistance is much more impressive.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteNo, it shows Link can't stop someone with momentum on his own. Relevant.
Which is a giant pile of [b]irrelevant.Show me a sword cutting Link.
Which makes him immune to Russell's attacks because they're so much lighter.
Prove this, several feats contradict you.
What is 'piercing sword damage'? Is it a new pokemon attack type? Super effective against things that can withstand castle busting attacks without physical harm?
We see the attack land from Ganon's own perspective.
Insane Troll Logic at work.
Provide a feat from MArnie or Antonia that lets her control someone with Ganon's immense magic resistance. haermm [/B]
So now you're claiming Dorf can't cut him ? 😂
False. Prove it.
Your claim.
Show me proof of him tanking attack like this.
No, we don't. We see it cut to another scene here.
Yes, you have troll logic.
You need to prove he can resist being controlled led since Hes undead.
Physics.
That's not what I claimed, but Ganondorf cutting Link wouldn't matter because Ganondorf is class 100 and Russell is not.
Link tanks an axe to the face from K.Bulbin. Dur.
Claim supported already by feats. Counter it or concede the point.
We see Midna bring down the spear from Ganon's POV.
You need to prove he's undead.
Originally posted by The ScenarioGanondorf isn't using his momentum like Russell can with his speed.Against opponents of human weight, he pretty clearly does not.
Not just swords, they are magical artifacts that are very powerful in their own right.
Just like he'll survive Russell's attacks, yes?
I listed quite a bit that you ignored though, since magical artifacts are not the same as normal swords. What about the cannons and the axe that failed to knock Link out? Are you ignoring those? You're claiming a 1/5 showing overrules the other 4/5?
Which part is hyberbole? Ganondorf being weak to the Master Sword is a known fact, and the other hit him before he had powers and he shrugged it off immediately. So even if he can be hurt, he doesn't die and has shown the ability to revive himself.
He couldn't have taken Midna's helm without tanking that attack.
Magic sustaining life =/= undead and I really think you should define your terms better. The wound not healing is just a wound not healing, why would that mean undead?
Midna is a Twili, and the Fused Shadws are Twili magic sealed in items. The Light Spirit specifically say that the Fused Shadows are dangerous to those who live in the light, and Ganondorf is exactly that. He clearly resisted a mental effect, and so that gives him resistance to Marnie.
We don't see any swords breaking off his skin and clearly see he relies on skill. He isn't immune to swords and there is absolutely no proof to support this insanity.
No, Russell can rip right through his flesh.
Quit hiding behind the magical aspect. Vampires dominate magical faeries. There. Cannon is tooney nonsense feat. Axe did not ko him but not everything does and he was ready for it.
Anti evil is hyperbole. It dispels magic but the anti evil is hyperbole and that's it.
Speculation. She might have ko'd herself.
Because without his magic he dies. Vampires die and their new physiology sustains life.
Dorf is dark and is not a creature of light Hes an evil dark being. His magic clearly amped the Twili magic. Union between Zant and he to work together.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ganondorf isn't using his momentum like Russell can with his speed.We don't see any swords breaking off his skin and clearly see he relies on skill. He isn't immune to swords and there is absolutely no proof to support this insanity.
No, Russell can rip right through his flesh.
Quit hiding behind the magical aspect. Vampires dominate magical faeries. There. Cannon is tooney nonsense feat. Axe did not ko him but not everything does and he was ready for it.
Anti evil is hyperbole. It dispels magic but the anti evil is hyperbole and that's it.
Speculation. She might have ko'd herself.
Because without his magic he dies. Vampires die and their new physiology sustains life.
Dorf is dark and is not a creature of light Hes an evil dark being. His magic clearly amped the Twili magic. Union between Zant and he to work together.
How can a regular sword damage someone who endures a castle busting blow? It can't.
Russell isn't strong enough.
Stop ignoring feats, and Link has plenty of feats to spare anyway.
No, anti-evil is the sword's main function. It actively destroys evil, this is the most stated thing about it in Zelda canon.
Irrelevant since even if she did it'd put her above the strength of TB characters.
This is the most vague thing you've ever tried to argue.
Ganondorf is a Gerudo, he is not a 'creature of the dark' he's just evil.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteThis is why I don't take you seriously. You just say random things without any proof to back it up. What speed feats does he have ?
Ganondorf is much larger, more powerful and faster than Edgington. Edgington would not be able to stop a collision with someone who casually runs through stone pillars.How can a regular sword damage someone who endures a castle busting blow? It can't.
Russell isn't strong enough.
Stop ignoring feats, and Link has plenty of feats to spare anyway.
No, anti-evil is the sword's [b]main function.
It actively destroys evil, this is the most stated thing about it in Zelda canon.Irrelevant since even if she did it'd put her above the strength of TB characters.
This is the most vague thing you've ever tried to argue.
Ganondorf is a Gerudo, he is not a 'creature of the dark' he's just evil. [/B]
We don't see him tank a castle buster nor resist any swords ? It's just cheery picking into bs logic while ignoring evidence.
Prove it.
I am not ignoring anything.
Hyperbole as anti evil means nothing just what it's done or its properties.
Prove it.
Dark meaning evil. He isn't someone who embraces light and has always backed Twili magic. Since when did anyone use it against him ?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ganondorf isn't using his momentum like Russell can with his speed.
Yes he is, Ganondorf clearly charged directly at Link, and Russell's momentum would not give him even a fraction of the force of a Goron.
We don't see any swords breaking off his skin and clearly see he relies on skill. He isn't immune to swords and there is absolutely no proof to support this insanity.
Are you talking about Link here?
No, Russell can rip right through his flesh.
Based on Links portrayal as a superhuman, no, Russell cannot overcome flesh that tanks axes and cannons.
Quit hiding behind the magical aspect. Vampires dominate magical faeries. There. Cannon is tooney nonsense feat. Axe did not ko him but not everything does and he was ready for it.
The magic is powerful, though, and his explicit weakness. Cannon happened three times, you can't ignore it. The axe is more consistent than the KO, and the KO is still 1/5. That is not "everything else." That is objectively ONE thing knocking him out anf FOUR other things failing to do so. 4 is greater than 1, so the more consistent taks precedence.
Anti evil is hyperbole. It dispels magic but the anti evil is hyperbole and that's it.
Anti-evil is stated in game and if you say that it isn't one more time I will be forced to kill your iPad.
Speculation. She might have ko'd herself.
We SEE her attack Ganon.
Because without his magic he dies. Vampires die and their new physiology sustains life.
And those are two entirely different processes. Is Voldemort undead?
Dorf is dark and is not a creature of light Hes an evil dark being. His magic clearly amped the Twili magic. Union between Zant and he to work together.
Despite his evil and powers, Ganondorf is not a Twili. Why do you think the Mirror of Twilight worked on him before? He's obviously gain resistance since then.
Originally posted by quanchi112
This is why I don't take you seriously. You just say random things without any proof to back it up. What speed feats does he have ?We don't see him tank a castle buster nor resist any swords ? It's just cheery picking into bs logic while ignoring evidence.
Prove it.
I am not ignoring anything.
Hyperbole as anti evil means nothing just what it's done or its properties.
Prove it.
Dark meaning evil. He isn't someone who embraces light and has always backed Twili magic. Since when did anyone use it against him ?
We see Midna attack him and destroy the castle.
K. Axe to the chin, castle buster. Now provide strength feats for Russell that compare.
As you ignore the important part of what you're replying to. Link has feats to spare.
So you don't like it, and you're ignoring that the sword has the power to destroy evil, and that this is it's main use?
No.
He's not a Twili, his resistance to Twilight magic is the same as his resistance to all other magic: The ToP.
..soo what happened the the 'if he's a zombie AK wont work' thought?
Originally posted by quanchi112So again, how tough are Fae?
Weve seen faeries ko'd prior to by faeries. They are stronger than people. We've also seen it faze Maryann though not much but she was almost invincible until she lowered her magical guard.
They only act that way when they ingest it. What planet are you from where you walk into a bar and can't think straight being in the vicinity. Newlin was fine and got wtf owned.Sunlight does but we don't know if silver works yet iirc. All we know is sunlight since being staked has no effect.
Warlow is going to be tough to kill IMO. No vampire weaknesses which is only reason anyone stands a chance against them in TB as it is.
False due to the very scene itself. Newlin appeared tipsy, idiotic and.. touchy from being in that area.
And actually you can walk into a bar and not be able to think straight due to social drunkness, just saying 😛
Is sunlight confirmed though, like do we actually see it happening? (only seeing ep3 today) I guess all they have is decapitation for Warlow, though good luck with that given how strong he is compared to anyone but Bill. ****, catching up catching up..
Originally posted by ScreamPasteWhen canonically can he ? Arrows aren't impressive and we've seen him impaled twice now.
Ganondorf is capable of casually avoiding hyper-sonic arrows. Want a .gif or video of it to **** with your iPad? <3We see Midna attack him and destroy the castle.
K. Axe to the chin, castle buster. Now provide strength feats for Russell that compare.
As you ignore the important part of what you're replying to. Link has feats to spare.
So you don't like it, and you're ignoring that the sword has the power to destroy evil, and that this is it's main use?
No.
He's not a Twili, his resistance to Twilight magic is the same as his resistance to all other magic: The ToP.
Speculation. We see him survive an axe but Link is safely outside the castle when its toppled.
Warlow, Claudine, or Faerie Elder bfrs Dorf. Or Marnie owns him.
Yes.
He supplies the magic to the Twili here so why would it affect him ?
Originally posted by BloodRainHe isn't without a soul.
..soo what happened the the 'if he's a zombie AK wont work' thought?
So again, how tough are Fae?False due to the very scene itself. Newlin appeared tipsy, idiotic and.. touchy from being in that area.
And actually you can walk into a bar and not be able to think straight due to social drunkness, just saying 😛Is sunlight confirmed though, like do we actually see it happening? (only seeing ep3 today) I guess all they have is decapitation for Warlow, though good luck with that given how strong he is compared to anyone but Bill. ****, catching up catching up..
Now he just craved the blood. You need to consume it. You can pretend otherwise but who cares.
No, you can't. Maybe you can but not other people.
Yes, he can survive sunlight. He can also bfr which works like a charm against Dorf.
Originally posted by The ScenarioYes, it would since his strength is great and his speed is far faster. Throw a bullet and shoot one. Which has greater force ?
Yes he is, Ganondorf clearly charged directly at Link, and Russell's momentum would not give him even a fraction of the force of a Goron.Are you talking about Link here?
Based on Links portrayal as a superhuman, no, Russell cannot overcome flesh that tanks axes and cannons.
The magic is powerful, though, and his explicit weakness. Cannon happened three times, you can't ignore it. The axe is more consistent than the KO, and the KO is still 1/5. That is not "everything else." That is objectively ONE thing knocking him out anf FOUR other things failing to do so. 4 is greater than 1, so the more consistent taks precedence.
Anti-evil is stated in game and if you say that it isn't one more time I will be forced to kill your iPad.
We SEE her attack Ganon.
And those are two entirely different processes. Is Voldemort undead?
Despite his evil and powers, Ganondorf is not a Twili. Why do you think the Mirror of Twilight worked on him before? He's obviously gain resistance since then.
Yes, Link.
One axe survival doesn't prove immunity to axes and the other feat is tooney and in their realm isn't supposed to kill anyone.
Cannon isn't supposed to kill in this verse. He is not immune to axes and we can he can be damaged by anyone in the game despite the reliance on canon videos only to misrepresent Link.
Just like Odin is stated to be omnipotent in comics. It is still hyperbole.
We don't know what happens next.
No, I never said he was. He took steps to live forever through magic. Horcruxes.
Ganon supplied the powers to the Twili so why would they work against him ?
No, he hasn't. He just found a way back. No proof as to being resistance to being bfr'd.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When canonically can he ? Arrows aren't impressive and we've seen him impaled twice now.Speculation. We see him survive an axe but Link is safely outside the castle when its toppled.
Warlow, Claudine, or Faerie Elder bfrs Dorf. Or Marnie owns him.
Yes.
He supplies the magic to the Twili here so why would it affect him ?
Surviving an axe is plenty and Ganondorf survives a castle bust.
Good luck to any of them doing that from underneath a Twilight field or a flash freeze.
Glad you admit it.
Ganon doesn't supply magic to the Twili at all, he only ever gave any of his power to Zant. The Fused Shadows are pure Twili magic.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteWhen are there instances of canon arrow misses ? Gameplay mechanic.
During the Beast Ganon, Puppet Zelda, and Ganondorf sections of the fight.Surviving an axe is plenty and Ganondorf survives a castle bust.
Good luck to any of them doing that from underneath a Twilight field or a flash freeze.
Glad you admit it.
Ganon doesn't supply magic to the Twili at all, he only ever gave any of his power to Zant. The Fused Shadows are pure Twili magic.
No, that doesn't prove immunity just that he can survive. Bfr Dorf or controls him.
This is an invasion thread. They can also teleport.
You said no I said yes. 😂
Yes, he gave power to Zant. Thanks for admitting it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When are there instances of canon arrow misses ? Gameplay mechanic.No, that doesn't prove immunity just that he can survive. Bfr Dorf or controls him.
This is an invasion thread. They can also teleport.
You said no I said yes. 😂
Yes, he gave power to Zant. Thanks for admitting it.
Good luck, the Fused Shadows couldn't and Ganondorf can fly now, so he's not just going to be pulled through a portal again.
Twilight Field.
Then you concede the point you failed to respond to, anyway. 🙂
Zant has nothing to do with the twilight realm, fused shadows, or other twili.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteNot canon as you don't have to shoot arrows. 😂
During all three fights Ganon is either completely untouchable by arrows or becomes completely untouchable by arrows.Good luck, the Fused Shadows couldn't and Ganondorf can fly now, so he's not just going to be pulled through a portal again.
Twilight Field.
Then you concede the point you failed to respond to, anyway. 🙂
Zant has nothing to do with the twilight realm, fused shadows, or other twili.
So what. Force him or blast him and he's bfrd like before when the sages dominate him.
Inapplicable here.
No, you conceded.
Zant used Dorfs power to achieve his goals. Obviously.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteIt isn't canon and a gameplay mechanic.
So you have no argument. Good.Sure, blast the teleporter with hyersonic reflexes and castle bust level durability for all your worth. haermm
Soloes.
Learn what that word means.
And this has nothing to do with the fused shadows or twilight realm, but I'm glad you finally grasp this basic concept.
Bfr, control him, or cut into his soft skin.
Prove it when the guy can't solo Link or sages.
Yes, it does. Dorf needed his help because on his own he was easily defeated.