Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
Very true but if something hasn't been proven to be impossible then it is still a possibility! just a hipothos, But fact is he can move much fast than light probably even fast than dark matter
Not really how it works. There has to be some evidence that it would be possible. And he doesn't really travel that distance. As Darkstorm said he is teleporting.
Get your facts right. Instead, Goku simply demonstrated its ability to the fellow Z Fighters after his return by warping to Kame House and stealing Master Roshi's sunglasses in under a few seconds. Throughout the rest of the series, Goku uses the technique often to travel around the universe. Goku can even shift through realms, having no problem teleporting from Earth to King Kai's planet, and from there to New Namek. In the FUNimation Dub, Goku describes the technique as allowing him to move at the speed of light (specifically 186,282.397 miles per second), Goku uses two of his popular attacks with this technique, such as Instant Kamehameha and Instant Spirit Bomb.
Fact from DragonBall Wiki!! It is revealed in the movie Dragon Ball Z: The Return of Cooler, that this move briefly moves the user into a pocket dimension which then allows them to move to any location instantly. However, the user cannot travel to an area they have never been to unless they can detect someone familiar to them to use as a homing beacon. hahahahah whats up nowwwwwww boyyyyy
◾Kami, Mr. Popo, Fortuneteller Baba, Tsururin Tsun, Kibito and later Kibito Kai also know a variation of the technique called Instantaneous Movement. This technique does not require an energy signature to home in on and does not use the typical Goku gesture. but its good enough for me I seen comments about it they say its good the name differs from dub and not dub is all
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
How are you going to say you know it isn't? you have know proof that it isn't and I asked what anime are you referring to then? Just because it hasn't happened does not mean he cant, he has had no reason to do so and he hast to travel faster than light speed if he can instantly transmit himself acrossed a universe, that just goes to show that you know nothing of light speed or how the fundamentals of the universe work! wich would mean his body is traveling that fast so?
I don't have to prove a negative. It is you who must provide the positive evidence, as you are the one that made the positive claim.
I already mentioned 2 Anime's.
And my penis may be the eternal dragon for all you know, of course, I wouldn't expect you to accept this claim without evidence. Apply similar logic to your argument.
Oh look, a phiysics argument for Dragon Ball Z! And from a guy who understands nothing of canon no less!, Goku describes instant transmission in intimate detail when he reveals it. He states that when used, the user becomes a beam of light and energy. Light and energy only travel so fast, that's where the lightspeed comes from. I am well aware of the inconsistence as he has been shown to cross trans galactic distances in mere moments, and even to another plane of existence within his universe. That said, it is STILL different from Kiboto Kai's instantaneous movement technique, as that move at least has shown to break inter-universal barriers. Goku however does not posess Kibito Kai's instantaneous movement.
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
Very true but if something hasn't been proven to be impossible then it is still a possibility! just a hipothos, But fact is he can move much fast than light probably even fast than dark matter
*Sigh* Unless and until it is proven to be within his capabilities, then no, he does not have that ability.
Which of course you would gladly elaborate on?
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
That is still traveling
It is instant transmission, he is not physically moving, he is teleporting as a beam of light and energy. It's no different than saying guys in star trek suddenly move at lightspeed because of transporters.
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
Get your facts right. Instead, Goku simply demonstrated its ability to the fellow Z Fighters after his return by warping to Kame House and stealing Master Roshi's sunglasses in under a few seconds. Throughout the rest of the series, Goku uses the technique often to travel around the universe. Goku can even shift through realms, having no problem teleporting from Earth to King Kai's planet, and from there to New Namek. In the FUNimation Dub, Goku describes the technique as allowing him to move at the speed of light (specifically 186,282.397 miles per second), Goku uses two of his popular attacks with this technique, such as Instant Kamehameha and Instant Spirit Bomb.
Cool your jets. Those realms are still within the exact same universe, thts not inter-universal travel, we are talking about 2 completely different things here.
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
Fact from DragonBall Wiki!! It is revealed in the movie Dragon Ball Z: The Return of Cooler, that this move briefly moves the user into a pocket dimension which then allows them to move to any location instantly. However, the user cannot travel to an area they have never been to unless they can detect someone familiar to them to use as a homing beacon. hahahahah whats up nowwwwwww boyyyyy
3 things.
#1: Wikis are hardly trustworthy databases that allow any person access to edit the information.
#2: The movies are non-canon.
#3: This information has never even been hinted at outside of that movie, and the only reason it even exists was to give Cooler a way to neutralise the Instant Transmission.
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
That's not what everyone els has said and it stated that yes it is actually him moving threw the space.
And who is "everyone else"?
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
It allows the USER to MOVE to any location,
It allows the user to TELEPORT to any location. That is what has been demonstrated, that is what has been described by Goku, that is what it is, and that's ALL that it is.
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
◾Kami, Mr. Popo, Fortuneteller Baba, Tsururin Tsun, Kibito and later Kibito Kai also know a variation of the technique called Instantaneous Movement. This technique does not require an energy signature to home in on and does not use the typical Goku gesture. but its good enough for me I seen comments about it they say its good the name differs from dub and not dub is all
Read above concerning IM.
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
It is not different or well the only diff is that they do not have to sense ki! other than that it is the same idea
It is also using different principles and has done different things from Goku's IT. You cannot arbitrarily give factors of one technique and copy-paste it into another just because they are similar. It does not work that way.
Dude, once again, use the edit button, PLEASE.
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
In the Japanese version it is constantly refered to as Instantaneous Movement. There is no real difference between the two.Vlcsnap-2013-06-16-21h03m01s82As shown here
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The only real difference comes with the usual English Dub and their naming inconsistencies
Your links don't work for one. for two, the principals for the techniques are very different. For three we have no idea how Kibito Kai's IM works. He is a Supreme Kai, a god above gods. He doesn't have the fighting powers Goku has, but he does have capabilities Goku cannot emulate.
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
that's also your opinion on the anime thing,
What?
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
CANNON? I Do understand what is and isn't so>>>, and No there is no teleportation involved, its like a warp in space and time persay, wich is clearly diff from star treck type teleportation man come on
No, not Cannon, Canon, as in official to the Dragon Ball Universe. This is usually restricted to what Akira Toryama actually wrote or had a direct involvement in. As in, the Manga and a couple of the movies.
That's not what Goku describes.
Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
Fact is your both wrong sorry to say
Fact check, you are giving IT a capability it never ever possessed, You are using a non-canon movie to try and pass of your explanation, and you are using a wiki as an official source. All 3 of these things are in fact, false. Thus it is YOU who is wrong, not us.