goku vs gohan

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Dude, once again, use the edit button, PLEASE.

Your links don't work for one. for two, the principals for the techniques are very different. For three we have no idea how Kibito Kai's IM works. He is a Supreme Kai, a god above gods. He doesn't have the fighting powers Goku has, but he does have capabilities Goku cannot emulate.

What?

No, not Cannon, Canon, as in official to the Dragon Ball Universe. This is usually restricted to what Akira Toryama actually wrote or had a direct involvement in. As in, the Manga and a couple of the movies.

That's not what Goku describes.

Fact check, you are giving IT a capability it never ever possessed, You are using a non-canon movie to try and pass of your explanation, and you are using a wiki as an official source. All 3 of these things are in fact, false. Thus it is YOU who is wrong, not us.

Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
bro I know what official dbz is and god above god no sorry to say god of distruction is far above him

I mean in terms of the Kais dude...

Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
How are you saying im false you have no basis to prove that

Seriously, how many different ways must I explain this to you?

You are trying to give Goku abilities he never had ever, and you are using faulty logic and non-canon evidence to support it. This is inherently false, thus your claim is false. This is simple, not rocket science.

Ok how are you saying im false?

Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
Ok how are you saying im false?

READ. WHAT. I. SAY.

This has been explained to you 3 times, in 3 different ways.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You are trying to give Goku abilities he never had ever, and you are using faulty logic and non-canon evidence to support it. This is inherently false, thus your claim is false. This is simple, not rocket science.

I just used cooler as a reff not saying it was canon and where is my faulty logic? that's all I am saying but this is far to complicated for me to keep arguing about something that you are right I really don't know a whole lot about it.

so for the sack of the debate im going to give you the win

Originally posted by ShadeSlayer15
I just used cooler as a reff not saying it was canon and where is my faulty logic? that's all I am saying but this is far to complicated for me to keep arguing about something that you are right I really don't know a whole lot about it.

By using Cooler Returns as a point of reference when it is not canon is, in itself, faulty logic.

If we start allowing non-canon material to have weight, all kinds of bad things happen, including various inconsistencies that tear debates apart.

The faulty logic is assuming that IT has a capability that it has never demonstrated. Assumptions cannot be proven as fact, and when we get into suppositions like this, threads enevitably degenerate into nothing but shitflinging and ends up with very little substance, if any at all.

I see, ok