Originally posted by Rao Kal El
TBH that feat is bogus.I personally wont use for anything, unless debating against someone who has not read the arc.
How is it bogus?
Sure, it's pretty much invalid for 9/10 threads Thor's involved in when he's acting remotely in character and we're not just throwing out random feats, but it happened and it's quite clear that Thor and the others produced energy to uphold the collapsing walls of the Multiverse itself.
Originally posted by -Pr-Funny, I am pretty sure "tickles" is the exact word Prime used to describe Black Adam's lightning.
Thor's lightning is still lightning. It'll hurt Prime. It might have less of it's possible effect due to the whole magic thing, but it's not going to be something that barely tickles, imo.
Originally posted by Naija boy
If as Carver the thread starter specified every power Thor had ever shown is viable, and going by the safe assumption that Thor fights with a modicum of common sense, this is not a simple battle for prime at all. Arguments that center merely on the act of "Team busting" without taking into account the actual details of the battles in question are particularly poor in this type of thread scenario as the performance levels and effectiveness of characters in the comics is greatly divergent from what it would be in a CIP free situation.
Well said.
With the OPs stip, this will be a tough as hell fight that could go either way.
Even if we take that feat into account, it was Demonstaff's plan to create a big bang by crashing those realities. Thor at best prevented a big bang from happening by contributing 1/4 of his energies. Regular Superman contributed in creating a Big Bang. Its up to interpretation which feat is superior since in Superman's case the big bang actually happened. Also Thor's magical attacks are gonna do shit if Kinetix with all the magic of a universe couldn't do shit to him. Prime shoves mjolnir up Thor's ass at superspeed now.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
CIS/CIP and Thor is still apparently brain dead.Assuming that it would kill him.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lately Kryptonian's have been surprisingly vulnerable to heat vision. Which is why I phrased it that way.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Even if we take that feat into account, it was Demonstaff's plan to create a big bang by crashing those realities. Thor at best prevented a big bang from happening by contributing 1/4 of his energies. Regular Superman contributed in creating a Big Bang. Its up to interpretation which feat is superior since in Superman's case the big bang actually happened. Also Thor's magical attacks are gonna do shit if Kinetix with all the magic of a universe couldn't do shit to him. Prime shoves mjolnir up Thor's ass at superspeed now.
What the phuck does Superman's "big bang feat" have to do with this? 😬 As is, we've already been through this feat of the Thor Corps and it's pretty glaring obvious what happened.
As far as Thor's attacks go, mystical or no, they've damaged people more powerful than Prime so I don't really see him no selling Thor's CIS/CIP off attacks at all. And I don't see Prime easily beating a normal Thor anyway, though he'd clearly win.
Still a bad fight for Thor, if SBP's magic resistance is at all in play a lot of the exotic crap Thor can pull out plus his lightning (which amps his strikes as well) would be either ineffective or reduced in intensity.
It's kinda like the reverse when an energy blaster fighting Thor, basic powerset advantage.
So, casting my vote for SBP, not a stomp, but SBP wins convincingly every time.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Still a bad fight for Thor, if SBP's magic resistance is at all in play a lot of the exotic crap Thor can pull out plus his lightning (which amps his strikes as well) would be either ineffective or reduced in intensity.It's kinda like the reverse when an energy blaster fighting Thor, basic powerset advantage.
So, casting my vote for SBP, not a stomp, but SBP wins convincingly every time.
Thor can still strike with his hammer, which can do Prime some harm, but I still give it to Prime.
The main problem here will be the fact that IF Thor's abilities are magic-based (his soul suck, anti force, energy redirection, etc) then just about every advantage given by "CIS/CIP off" is negated by SBP's magic immunity. I don't see a way around this unless there are "feats" out there that contradict the magical nature of Thor's abilities or "feats" that have allowed Thor to bypass characters with a form of magic resistance.
The hammer would hurt, yes, but w/o Thor's exotic abilities, this'll be entirely in SBP's favor.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Also Thor's magical attacks are gonna do shit if Kinetix with all the magic of a universe couldn't do shit to him. Prime shoves mjolnir up Thor's ass at superspeed now.
However, factor in the fact that SBP CAN speed blitz and he has done so before and this fight ends with Thor beaten into bloody pudding.
Back from vacation...
Anyway, Thor has the power to not only make this tough, but win as well. Not saying he will, but he can definitely tank the physicality of SBP long enough to pull off his higher end abilities.
My guess is Thor would life-drain SBP, but soul-sucking, god-blasting or anti-force are all options as well. Just because he's more resistant to magical attacks doesn't stop him from getting f*dged up from a life-drain.
Thor unleashing his abilities at full puts him almost at skyfather levels.
SBP incinerates Thor with gamma-heat vision. Then cries because the fight was over so fast.
Originally posted by Sh3nG L0nGThor may lose, but it's not going to be an easy victory at all for SBP. Also, Thor could definitely get wins in this fight.
valiant effort being showcased by the Thor Corp; sadly Thor still winds up in a ditch somewhere with his anus where his ear goes and vice versa.
