Space Gods vs Omega Mutants

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Space Gods vs Omega Mutants

Teneburus - Tiamut - Galactus

-vs-

Jamie Braddock - True Legion - Adult Franklin Richards

Note: Galactus w/4 planets

Will the quantum leap in human evolution, render the Cosmic Entities obsolete? Or will the Space Gods wipe out the mutants, thus serve cosmic consonance?

Is this post-Fulcrum Tiamut?

Mutants in an horriffic stomp unless Tiamut is at Fulcrum levels.

True Legion possibly solos the entire field.

UN in play

Originally posted by golem370
UN in play

UN couldn't even kill a Rogue Celestial.

True Legion should solo the entire field.

They're still mutants, aren't they?

Galactus should be able to instantly turn off the "X-gene".

Originally posted by janus77
They're still mutants, aren't they?

Galactus should be able to instantly turn off the "X-gene".


How? The Celestials are responsible for the X-gene yet they couldn't turn off AFR's X-gene, Jean's X-gene, or Sue's X-gene to stop them from fighting back.

If they couldn't, and they are the ones responsible for the damn thing in the first place, what makes you think Galactus can?

True Legion could solo the field.

Mutants. Easily.

Sue has an x-gene?

Originally posted by janus77
They're still mutants, aren't they?

Galactus should be able to instantly turn off the "X-gene".

Should be does not mean that they can, given that the Mutants now have equally vast forces at their command.

Case n point.

Kid Franklin turning the Celestials cosmic rays into flowers.

^...He also turned a Celestial's head into a flower garden. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
^...He also turned a Celestial's head into a flower garden. 👆

Which unfortunately had no lasting effect

^ Correct. However, he was just a boy with very little understanding of his abilities(relative to his adult counterpart), yet he was still able to:
-easily transmute a Celestial's blast.
-easily transmute a Celestial's armor.
-easily belay a Celestial's attempt at mind-phuckery.

Adult Franklin was able to outright destroy the phuckers.

I'll wait for Mr. Master's input before giving my opinion on this match.

idk about legion soloing the entire field but mutants should win pretty handily

Originally posted by Galan007
Adult Franklin was able to outright destroy the phuckers.

And yet he didn't so easily when the Mad Celestials came knocking. Not saying that he wasn't more powerful than the Mad Celestials individually, because he was, but it certainly wasn't as easy as subconsciously owning them as Kid Franklin subconsciously did the things you listed.

Subtly warping the Celestials for a few moments isn't remotely as impressive as destroying them outright.

The point is, the mutants have a heightened awareness, and are in control of vast psionic/reality warping powers.

Its impossible to say that the likes of Galactus can simply turn off the X-Gene, when their reality warping powers can modulate, and effect the power of cosmic as well.

^i just wanted to clarify something regarding tiamut.

we know for a fact that tiamut is equal to fulcrum (eternals #9)

http://i.imgur.com/HnPY03I.jpg

this is further confirmed by the OHOTMU update #4 (2010), see bottom right, just above the power grid couldn't edit the image for some reason:

http://i.imgur.com/RI8OxRS.jpg?1

now the big question is who is fulcrum?

the fulcrum has been strongly hinted as being the representative of the writer (specifically jack kirby)

that's how jack kirby looks in real life:

http://i.imgur.com/8VAVFqO.jpg

and that's how fulcrum looks:

http://i.imgur.com/0qjevef.jpg?1

now they aren't that similar but there are other factors to consider. the fact that fulcrum is all powerful and all knowing:

http://i.imgur.com/D69oPFD.jpg

there's also the fact that fulcrum's name is actually "jack" so that is a strong hint imo. Also who created the celestials? it was jack kirby, and the fulcrum is depicted as being their master in the comic itself.

jack kirby (comic version) also appeared as being the representation of the writer in fantastic four #511;

http://i.imgur.com/UQzxY5e.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PKvJUXJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NKaocWq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/44XXhqs.jpg

so i guess it's possible that he reappeared in eternals, despite that he does have 1 low showing, sadly.

so tiamut should solo if we take that into consideration

id like to also add something on franklin, but i don't have any time right now, ill probably do it later.