Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Your opinion, which is fair. Mine differs.If COIE AM had any TP resistance to speak of outside of people not trying it for whatever reason such as them doubting its effectiveness, I'm pretty sure that like most characters, any resistance he did have would have likewise been scaled down to the level he was at during Sinestro Corps War.
Speculations ftw. You can't scale down something which doesn't exist.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So Odin and every other telepath ever mind rapes Anti-Monitor? Cool, glad that's settled.But seriously, no one tried TP on Anti-Monitor in CoIE? I know Deadman tried and failed to possess him but nothing else?
Nobody did.
Originally posted by abhilegend
His feats too.Speculations ftw. You can't scale down something which doesn't exist.
Okay?
Which makes COIE Anti-Monitor relevant how, again? He literally has no showings of TP resistance and the only counter argument against it is centered around him being a cosmic entity and the fact that no really tried it. That's cool and I'm okay with taking that stance to a point if we're dealing with TP from guys like J'onn or Xavier or whatever, not on the level of Odin, who likewise has feats in general which rival "cosmic entities". I find it much more speculative to assume Odin would outright lose a TP battle against Anti-Monitor than the idea he'd be at the very least marginally successful against him.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lawlz.Odin beats CoIE Anti-Monitor through telepathy. Get at me bro.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Okay?Which makes COIE Anti-Monitor relevant how, again? He literally has no showings of TP resistance and the only counter argument against it is centered around him being a cosmic entity and the fact that no really tried it. That's cool and I'm okay with taking that stance to a point if we're dealing with TP from guys like J'onn or Xavier or whatever, not on the level of Odin, who likewise has feats in general which rival "cosmic entities". I find it much more speculative to assume Odin would outright lose a TP battle against Anti-Monitor than the idea he'd be at the very least marginally successful against him.
OK.
So you agree that Odin mindrapes COIE AM? Yes or no? He has no TP resistance feat either. Odin got into Galactus' head after all and everybody knows Galactus>COIE Anti-monitor, right?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Eww.OK.
So you agree that Odin mindrapes COIE AM? Yes or no? He has no TP resistance feat either. Odin got into Galactus' head after all and everybody knows Galactus>COIE Anti-monitor, right?
Again with this strawman shit? 😬
Who said Galactus > COIE Anti-Monitor? Seriously? Considering Anti-Monitor didn't display any TP resistant feats period regardless of the era, I personally think COIE Anti-Monitor, due to him being overall significantly more powerful than his SCW counterpart, would likely resist such an attack. SCW A-M, not so much.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Again with this strawman shit? 😬Who said Galactus > COIE Anti-Monitor? Seriously? Considering Anti-Monitor didn't display any TP resistant feats period regardless of the era, I personally think COIE Anti-Monitor, due to him being overall significantly more powerful than his SCW counterpart, would likely resist such an attack. SCW A-M, not so much.
So you agree that power can beat telepathy even though AM hasn't shown any telepathic resistance, right? Now where would you rank AM in comparison to Odin in power?
Originally posted by eaebiakuya
A Galaxy Busting Attack + a Superman Prime attack would defeat Galactus (not hungry) ?Why he is Galactus level ?
Tell me, what is galactus level power?
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂So you agree that power can beat telepathy even though AM hasn't shown any telepathic resistance, right? Now where would you rank AM in comparison to Odin in power?
What are the hell are you talking about?
I said from the beginning that COIE Anti-Monitor =/= SCW Anti-Monitor and that I'd be willing to assume that he'd likely have TP resistance to a point purely based on his status as a "cosmic entity". That said, considering COIE A-M >>> SCW A-M, I'm not willing to assume that this means that SCW A-M would be just as "resistant" to TP as his far more formidable self. So, yeah, please both read and comprehend my posts before trying to put words in my mouth or poorly strawman me.
I'd hate to see you get Phantom Zone'd again so soon after escaping.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank👆
What are the hell are you talking about?I said from the beginning that COIE Anti-Monitor =/= SCW Anti-Monitor and that I'd be willing to assume that he'd likely have TP resistance to a point purely based on his status as a "cosmic entity". That said, considering COIE A-M >>> SCW A-M, I'm not willing to assume that this means that SCW A-M would be just as "resistant" to TP as his far more formidable self. So, yeah, please both read and comprehend my posts before trying to put words in my mouth or poorly strawman me.
I'd hate to see you get Phantom Zone'd again so soon after escaping.
Originally posted by CogitoIf Odin were arrogant enough to just stand there while he lets SC Anti-Monitor slowly generate a potent enough anti-matter wave and Odin declines to simply BFR those destructive waves into another dimension, this is perfectly possible.
As much of a shadow of his former self that he was at the time, it still took a galaxy busting attack to basically put down the Anti-Monitor (before SBP finished him off).Odin could probably beat him, but I could see an anti-matter wave killing Odin also.
Or Odin transmutes his helmet into marshmallow fluff and headbutts him into further irrelevancy.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Okay?Which makes COIE Anti-Monitor relevant how, again? He literally has no showings of TP resistance and the only counter argument against it is centered around him being a cosmic entity and the fact that no really tried it. That's cool and I'm okay with taking that stance to a point if we're dealing with TP from guys like J'onn or Xavier or whatever, not on the level of Odin, who likewise has feats in general which rival "cosmic entities". I find it much more speculative to assume Odin would outright lose a TP battle against Anti-Monitor than the idea he'd be at the very least marginally successful against him.
now, ya know, i used that exact same argument when it came to odin vs tyrant and was pretty much laughed off the forum by a few posters. tyrant has zero feats vs tp but we're supposed to simply assume he has tp on or greater than odin's. hrm. least the forum is consistent.
Originally posted by leonidasI bet that was that also before the Odin tp Galactus fight I'd imagine.
now, ya know, i used that exact same argument when it came to odin vs tyrant and was pretty much laughed off the forum by a few posters. tyrant has zero feats vs tp but we're supposed to simply assume he has tp on or greater than odin's. hrm. least the forum is consistent.
Originally posted by leonidas
now, ya know, i used that exact same argument when it came to odin vs tyrant and was pretty much laughed off the forum by a few posters. tyrant has zero feats vs tp but we're supposed to simply assume he has tp on or greater than odin's. hrm. least the forum is consistent.
Yeah, that's dumb. I could buy Tyrant having TP defenses which would prevent him from being mindraped by heralds due to his "status", but assuming he's at the level where he'd be beyond Odin's TP is a huge stretch.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, that's dumb. I could buy Tyrant having TP defenses which would prevent him from being mindraped by heralds due to his "status", but assuming he's at the level where he'd be beyond Odin's TP is a huge stretch.