Anti-Monitor (Sinestro Corps) vs Odin

Started by JakeTheBank4 pages
Originally posted by zopzop
He's a machine. WTF is TP going to do vs a machine? Does Odin have high level Technopathy?

Galactus is pure cosmic energy and shouldn't have a "brain" to effect period. 😬

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Galactus is pure cosmic energy and shouldn't have a "brain" to effect period. 😬

Except your wrong. How many times has this being of "pure cosmic energy" been shown to bleed? Sweat? Drool? Last time I checked beings that are made of pure energy don't do any of that.

What happened when Doom drained Galactus of the PC? He was Galan underneath all that armor.

Galactus isn't purely energy or purely physical, he's somewhere inbetween.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What are the hell are you talking about?

I said from the beginning that COIE Anti-Monitor =/= SCW Anti-Monitor and that I'd be willing to assume that he'd likely have TP resistance to a point purely based on his status as a "cosmic entity". That said, considering COIE A-M >>> SCW A-M, I'm not willing to assume that this means that SCW A-M would be just as "resistant" to TP as his far more formidable self. So, yeah, please both read and comprehend my posts before trying to put words in my mouth or poorly strawman me.

I'd hate to see you get Phantom Zone'd again so soon after escaping.

I'm taking your own reasoning.

So SCW AM isn't a cosmic entity?

Quit already false superfan.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm taking your own reasoning.

So SCW AM isn't a cosmic entity?

Quit already false superfan.

No, you're projecting arguments on to me in a lousy attempt to bolster your own.

Where the hell did I say SCW AM isn't a cosmic entity? Point to any post of mine where I said Anti-Monitor wasn't a cosmic entity. 😬

Seriously, both read and comprehend my posts before trying to "counter" them.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
No, you're projecting arguments on to me in a lousy attempt to bolster your own.

Where the hell did I say SCW AM isn't a cosmic entity? Point to any post of mine where I said Anti-Monitor wasn't a cosmic entity. 😬

Seriously, both read [b]and comprehend my posts before trying to "counter" them. [/B]


You are already countering your own arguments.

So COIE AM can stop TP attacks because he is a cosmic entity but SCW AM can't even though he is a cosmic entity? Since you said that more powerful cosmic entity can stop TP attack, that must mean Odin>SCW AM in power, right? Yes or no.

I'm understanding it just fine. Not my fault your reasoning is flawed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are already countering your own arguments.

So COIE AM can stop TP attacks because he is a cosmic entity but SCW AM can't even though he is a cosmic entity? Since you said that more powerful cosmic entity can stop TP attack, that must mean Odin>SCW AM in power, right? Yes or no.

I'm understanding it just fine. Not my fault your reasoning is flawed.

How?

WTF. facepalm COIE AM >>> SCW AM. How is that hard for you to understand? Seriously? And no, I said cosmic entities are generally more than likely resistant to TP to a point, not flat out immune, let alone immune to someone on Odin's level. My point is that due to COIE AM being significantly more powerful and formidably than his portrayal in SCW, I personally would give him a more benefit of the doubt concerning TP resistance than I would SCW A-M. And no, that doesn't mean I said Odin > SCW AM in power, either.

Seriously, stop straw manning and stop putting words in my mouth, Abhi. It reeks of desperation and is only likely to get you warned/banned again.

You're not understanding anything here and are just arguing to argue/troll.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How?

WTF. facepalm COIE AM >>> SCW AM. How is that hard for you to understand? Seriously? And no, I said cosmic entities are generally more than likely resistant to TP to a point, not flat out immune, let alone immune to someone on Odin's level. My point is that due to COIE AM being significantly more powerful and formidably than his portrayal in SCW, I personally would give him a more benefit of the doubt concerning TP resistance than I would SCW A-M. And no, that doesn't mean I said Odin > SCW AM in power, either.

Seriously, stop straw manning and stop putting words in my mouth, Abhi. It reeks of desperation and is only likely to get you warned/banned again.

You're not understanding anything here and are just arguing to argue/troll.


Read your arguments.

Nobody said SCW AM=COIE AM. You said that cosmic entities with more power can stop TP attacks. Since SCW AM is a cosmic entity and Odin is too IYO, who is more powerful can stop the TP attack according to your own words, right? So who is more powerful, Odin or AM?

Stop facepalming at your own reasoning. You yourself said that Power>Telepathy as to why COIE AM would stop Odin's TP attack. I'm merely applying that to SCW AM.

Also stop with this "warned/banned" threat just because I'm arguing with you. You are not a mod, stop acting like one or you will get a warning for backseat modding.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Read your arguments.

Nobody said SCW AM=COIE AM. You said that cosmic entities with more power can stop TP attacks. Since SCW AM is a cosmic entity and Odin is too IYO, who is more powerful can stop the TP attack according to your own words, right? So who is more powerful, Odin or AM?

Stop facepalming at your own reasoning. You yourself said that Power>Telepathy as to why COIE AM would stop Odin's TP attack. I'm merely applying that to SCW AM.

I know exactly what I wrote.

Then stop strawmanning me by repeatedly bringing in COIE A-M like he's relevant to the thread. I said Odin has feats to rival said cosmic entities, not that he is one himself. So again, read and comprehend my posts prior to replying to them. Based on feats, I'd take Odin over SCW A-M, regardless.

Why would you apply reasoning for COIE AM being able to halt or otherwise defend against Odin's TP to SCW AM...especially when you just said "nobody's saying SCW AM = COIE AM"? The phuck?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Also stop with this "warned/banned" threat just because I'm arguing with you. You are not a mod, stop acting like one or you will get a warning for backseat modding.

😂

I'm asking you, and have been asking you civilly, to stop putting words in my mouth and strawmanning me instead of just reporting you. It's not a threat; it's me not wanting to have to see another thread get derailed. Again.

Originally posted by zopzop
He's a machine. WTF is TP going to do vs a machine? Does Odin have high level Technopathy?
He's techno-organic, I guess? You make Tyrant sound like some automaton with artificial intelligence. In any case, you might not know this, but telepathy has worked against sentient machines before.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I know exactly what I wrote.

Then stop strawmanning me by repeatedly bringing in COIE A-M like he's relevant to the thread. I said Odin has feats to rival said cosmic entities, not that he is one himself. So again, read and comprehend my posts prior to replying to them. Based on feats, I'd take Odin over SCW A-M, regardless.

Why would you apply reasoning for COIE AM being able to halt or otherwise defend against Odin's TP to SCW AM...especially when you just said "nobody's saying SCW AM = COIE AM"? The phuck?

😂

I'm asking you, and have been asking you civilly, to stop putting words in my mouth and strawmanning me instead of just reporting you. It's not a threat; it's me not wanting to have to see another thread get derailed. Again.


So running in circles again, eh? I asked you a simple question based upon your own reasoning, "Why can't SCW AM stop Odin's TP when he is more powerful than Odin just like COIE AM is just not that big of a gap between them?" You went on a tirade at how I am putting words in your mouth and whatnot.

Good because you wrote it like you were threatening me.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So running in circles again, eh? I asked you a simple question based upon your own reasoning, "Why can't SCW AM stop Odin's TP when he is more powerful than Odin just like COIE AM is just not that big of a gap between them?" You went on a tirade at how I am putting words in your mouth and whatnot.

Good because you wrote it like you were threatening me.

😂

No, you brought up COIE AM into this and attributed his alleged TP resistance onto SCW AM and then strawmanned me and placed words in my mouth like Odin being a cosmic entity, SCW AM not being a cosmic entity, and other great gems.

Hey, I'm not the one you have to worry about.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
😂

No, you brought up COIE AM into this and attributed his alleged TP resistance onto SCW AM and then strawmanned me and placed words in my mouth like Odin being a cosmic entity, SCW AM not being a cosmic entity, and other great gems.

Hey, I'm not the one you have to worry about.


I didn't. I was just asking questions.

That's not your problem to worry about.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Tell me, what is galactus level power?

At his worst, he was able to destroy a Galaxy (a attack who hurted Anti-Monitor). Full Power (or non hungry) Galactus is universal level or close to this.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
At his worst, he was able to destroy a Galaxy (a attack who hurted Anti-Monitor). Full Power (or non hungry) Galactus is universal level or close to this.

What is "full power" Galactus? The most powerful canon version of Galactus ever, the one that ate 4 planets, couldn't beat 4 Rogue Celestials.

And what do you mean "at his worst" he was able to destroy a galaxy? There was a picture of him with the canisters of energy Annihilus had stored swirling up and toward Galactus before he unleashed his "herald my rage" blast.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
At his worst, he was able to destroy a Galaxy (a attack who hurted Anti-Monitor). Full Power (or non hungry) Galactus is universal level or close to this.

That wasn't at his worst. Galactus regained his energies before that blast. At his worst he gets knocked out by Thing, Thor almost kills him and Ego makes him retreat because they were equal in power.

There is nothing like full power Galactus. A sated Galactus is above skyfather level but not so much that he steamrolls them.

Odin still wins based off superior feats of power and abilities.

In the mini-series God Hunter, is showed that Galactus is very weak and hungry because Anihilation events. He dont was "fully" restored or anything like that before that blast.

Of course he had been worst, but those moments he was like a living dead (the fight against Thing, the final issue of God Hunter series).

When i mean " full power" i mean "feed". Sorry.

We have seen him beating Celestials and threatering the entire multiverse in Thor Annual (battle against the Other and Scrier). He alredy showed a power way above galaxy level.

There is nothing like full power Galactus. A sated Galactus is above skyfather level but not so much that he steamrolls them.

You said " Odin oneshots himself trying to hurt AM " and said Galactus = AM.

That is not "steamrolls" a Skyfather ?

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
In the mini-series God Hunter, is showed that Galactus is very weak and hungry because Anihilation events.

Yeah, the energy he absorbed in those canisters was exhausted when he did that "herald my rage blast".

threatering the entire multiverse in Thor Annual (battle against the Other and Scrier).

Galactus didn't threaten anything. It was Scrier and the Other's fight that threatened the multiverse. Adding Galactus to the mix was a bonus.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
In the mini-series God Hunter, is showed that Galactus is very weak and hungry because Anihilation events. He dont was "fully" restored or anything like that before that blast.
That was because he drained himself by that "herald my rage" blast.

Of course he had been worst, but those moments he was like a living dead (the fight against Thing, the final issue of God Hunter series).
You asked for worst showings after all.

When i mean " full power" i mean "feed". Sorry.
No need to be sorry.

We have seen him beating Celestials and threatering the entire multiverse in Thor Annual (battle against the Other and Scrier).
Him beating celestials was when he was amped by consuming four planets. That's not a regular Galactus. That fight with The Other and Scrier is a huge outlier for all the characters involved. Both Scrier and The Other have appeared in SS v3 and they were not even universal level much less multiversal.
He alredy showed a power way above galaxy level.
That's not his average power level. That's an extreme outlier which doesn't matches with Galactus' entire history.

You said " Odin oneshots himself trying to hurt AM " and said Galactus = AM.
I was mainly joking about the stupid headbutt Odin gave to Galactus and knocked himself out.

That is not "steamrolls" a Skyfather ?
Do you think Galactus steamrolled Odin?

That was because he drained himself by that "herald my rage" blast.

If im not wrong, is stated that is because he had his energy drained.

Him beating celestials was when he was amped by consuming four planets. That's not a regular Galactus. That fight with The Other and Scrier is a huge outlier for all the characters involved. Both Scrier and The Other have appeared in SS v3 and they were not even universal level much less multiversal.

Amped = not hungry ?

What about his fight against Agamotto (who affected anothers dimensions), his fight in Cancerverse (the battle was affecting the reality/universe and he was in frontline), fight against Mephisto (he was hungry and destroyed galaxies).

If you say AM = Hungry Galactus ok.

But hungry Galactus is not regular Galactus (even tough, most of times we see him, he is hungry).

Do you think Galactus steamrolled Odin?

Yes. If you do your best attack, strong enough to K.O yourself, and the enemy is just fine, he is in a different league.

Celestiais steamrolled Odin in the past. And Galactus fighted against Celestials.