Anybody saying Superman can just bulldoze Stardust is shooting from their hip without knowing the characters involved.
Stardust took on one of the most powerful interpretations of a definite top tier in Beta Ray Bill in Stormbreaker.
He showed enormous energy projection, offensively uses blackholes, and survived two planets destructions without missing a beat.
Superman is powerful, but if Stardust shows up, Superman is gonna be in for the fight of his life.
This isn't Wonder Woman with a lasso.
If by some miracle he defeats Stardust(don't see how honestly), he's not gonna be capable of matching a primed Surfer.
Originally posted by UniOmniyou done naming high end feats? Don't throw high end feats and ignore everything else. I can do the same and believe me, you lose in that debate
Anybody saying Superman can just bulldoze Stardust is shooting from their hip without knowing the characters involved.Stardust took on one of the most powerful interpretations of a definite top tier in Beta Ray Bill in Stormbreaker.
He showed enormous energy projection, offensively uses blackholes, and survived two planets destructions without missing a beat.
Superman is powerful, but if Stardust shows up, Superman is gonna be in for the fight of his life.
This isn't Wonder Woman with a lasso.
If by some miracle he defeats Stardust(don't see how honestly), he's not gonna be capable of matching a primed Surfer.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Anybody saying Superman can just bulldoze Stardust is shooting from their hip without knowing the characters involved.Stardust took on one of the most powerful interpretations of a definite top tier in Beta Ray Bill in Stormbreaker.
He showed enormous energy projection, offensively uses blackholes, and survived two planets destructions without missing a beat.
Superman is powerful, but if Stardust shows up, Superman is gonna be in for the fight of his life.
This isn't Wonder Woman with a lasso.
If by some miracle he defeats Stardust(don't see how honestly), he's not gonna be capable of matching a primed Surfer.
Superman would punch surfer's head in if he's primed.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
you done naming high end feats? Don't throw high end feats and ignore everything else. I can do the same and believe me, you lose in that debate
What you say would be true if the Dust had some low end feats, but he does not, and thus all we have to go on are his average feats which UniOmni painted in vivid colors.
Superman would likely defeat all of them except for Stardust, and the Surfer, maybe even the Fallen One due to weakness exploitation.
Why the hell is it becoming a trend that if someone names a good or even high end feat for a character, instead of discussing the outright context of the feat or just accepting it and mentioning similar feats for the other character, the response is to just lowball mercilessly if not cite outright PIS feats?
For the record, it's certainly possible for Superman to clear. But Christ Almighty...
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Why the hell is it becoming a trend that if someone names a good or even high end feat for a character, instead of discussing the outright context of the feat or just accepting it and mentioning similar feats for the other character, the response is to just lowball mercilessly if not cite outright PIS feats?For the record, it's certainly possible for Superman to clear. But Christ Almighty...
I guess thats just easier for some people instead of actually making a solid case for their character *shrugs*
Originally posted by JakeTheBankthere is a big difference when people argue Pis and when there is low balling, high feat showing going on. Seriously, people tend to use high end feats on those they favor but using average-low end feats towards those they want to lose. Heck, we all do it subconsciously, but some just OD on that behavior
Why the hell is it becoming a trend that if someone names a good or even high end feat for a character, instead of discussing the outright context of the feat or just accepting it and mentioning similar feats for the other character, the response is to just lowball mercilessly if not cite outright PIS feats?For the record, it's certainly possible for Superman to clear. But Christ Almighty...