Iron Fist and Wolverine vs Itachi Uchiha

Started by Demonic Phoenix3 pages

Tsukuyomi can only alter time, it can't alter the laws of physics or Itachi's physical capabilities. vin

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Not to mention those links are to an illusion battle.

And the illusions were meant to be life-like. It's not like he made himself stronger than Superman in the illusion, which he easily could have while in Tsukuyomi.

Regardless, I still can't believe you people don't think that Itachi's physically stronger than Spider-Man.

Part 1 Naruto could do this.
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First Tail mode Naruto.
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Sasuke and Naruto's clash wrecking solid structure like nothing.
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Those strength feats alone are more than anything any class 15 could do on an average day. The difference between Naruto/Sasuke here and dying Itachi is astronomical. In terms of everything Itachi is faaaaaaaar superior to them.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Spider-man ding it is once in a life time, Itachi's isn't?

It's only one show with a single author whereas there are thousands upon thousands of Spider-Man comics each with different writers. Not only that, there is only one all-out Itachi fight in the entire series and he performed like that.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Tsukuyomi can only alter time, it can't alter the laws of physics or Itachi's physical capabilities. vin

Itachi's God in Tsukuyomi and his Tsukuyomi can't be broken by a single person. Killer B was able to break Sasuke's version, but fell under Itachi's average genjutsu. Danzo even explained that Itachi's Tsukuyomi is far superior to Sasuke's.

Originally posted by TheTyrant

Itachi's God in Tsukuyomi

Lulz at Itachi being god in his Tsukuyomi. He's god already. kruemelmonsteryn0

Originally posted by TheTyrant
his Tsukuyomi can't be broken by a single person.
Bullshit.
Sasuke broke Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Itachi holding back does not invalidate this.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Killer B was able to break Sasuke's version, but fell under Itachi's average genjutsu.

Killer Bee never broke through Sasuke's MS Genjutsu. Gyuuki, his Bijuu, broke it.

The same thing happened when Itachi cast a regular genjutsu on Bee.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Danzo even explained that Itachi's Tsukuyomi is far superior to Sasuke's.

Yes, because Itachi can alter a person's perception of time within Tsukuyomi.
Your proof that he can make himself Superman-level strong within Tsukuyomi, or completely change the laws of physics?

Come back when you've read and understood the manga. Your wanking of Itachi needs a lot of work as well.

And those strength feats featured two characters amped up. Naruto gets ludicrously stronger when using the Kyuubi's chakra. He goes from struggling to lift the jaws of a snake biting on him(though he does eventually do it) to being able to stop an identical snake that was going at a full charge. Likewise the Curse Seal increases the users strength.

Itachi has neither of these things and has slightly above average strength. If he really were that strong then he wouldn't need Susano'o to smash the wall between him and Kabuto.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
And those strength feats featured two characters amped up. Naruto gets ludicrously stronger when using the Kyuubi's chakra. He goes from struggling to lift the jaws of a snake biting on him(though he does eventually do it) to being able to stop an identical snake that was going at a full charge. Likewise the Curse Seal increases the users strength.

Itachi has neither of these things and has slightly above average strength. If he really were that strong then he wouldn't need Susano'o to smash the wall between him and Kabuto.

Are you seriously telling me that part 1 Naruto and Sasuke were physically stronger than Itachi?

Despite Edo Itachi physically keeping up with BM Naruto?

How does Itachi taking out Susano'o to break a wall prove that he can't physically do it himself? There are no repercussions to using it while in Edo Tensei. He might have been taking it out for defense in case Kabuto was quick to retaliate? That literally shows nothing about Itachi's physical strength.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Bullshit.
Sasuke broke Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Itachi holding back does not invalidate this.

Itachi holding back and having his visual prowess weakened is everything that invalidates that since Tsukuyomi can easily kill someone as both Kakashi and Kisame noted. If he had kept it up with the intention of not killing Sasuke, then Sasuke would have been put in a coma in the real world just like Kakashi before the time skip. If Sasuke went into a coma, then everything Itachi had planned would've been ruined.

Killer Bee never broke through Sasuke's MS Genjutsu. Gyuuki, his Bijuu, broke it.

Ok? How does this disprove what I said? I said that no single person can break out of Tsukuyomi and Killer B needed 8-Tails to do it for him against Sasuke's much weaker version. It was Sasuke's first time using it as well.

Itachi's Tsukuyomi will have its effect in about a second in the real world and no other person can help you if you are caught in it as Kakashi explicitly stated.

The same thing happened when Itachi cast a regular genjutsu on Bee.

Only after Itachi told them that they were under his genjutsu.

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According to Naruto what would happen if B was put in Tsukuyomi.

Yes, because Itachi can alter a person's perception of time within Tsukuyomi.

Meaning that it won't be instantaneous like Itachi's version.

Your proof that he can make himself Superman-level strong within Tsukuyomi, or completely change the laws of physics?

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"All of space. All of time. Every matter. Everything is under my control."

Space, time, matter, everything. It doesn't get any more clear than that, rofl.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Are you seriously telling me that part 1 Naruto and Sasuke were physically stronger than Itachi?
Yes (Well, mostly just Naruto using the Kyuubi, I don't recall strength feats for Sasuke, even using the Cursed Seal).

Prove me wrong.

Not that Naruto pushing Sasuke about a foot through rock makes him stronger than Spiderman mind you.

Itachi at no point overpowered BM Naruto, so him fighting him means dick.

The Curse Seal did make Jirobi stronger so I kind of applied it to Sasuke as well. And Sasuke's Curse Seal did make him durable as Hell.

And I'm sure Wolverine has fought with some pretty strong guys in scenes similar to the Itachi one. On top of those nifty feat things he has.

Shut the **** up.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yes (Well, mostly just Naruto using the Kyuubi, I don't recall strength feats for Sasuke, even using the Cursed Seal).

Prove me wrong.

Not that Naruto pushing Sasuke about a foot through rock makes him stronger than Spiderman mind you.

Itachi at no point overpowered BM Naruto, so him fighting him means dick.

Part 1 Sasuke takes out an approx 30 foot bear with one kick. A mite better than Spiderman-level as I recall.

Come at me bro!

It isn't.

It is about class 5. 👆

Using a technique that Itachi has no access to. 👆

It's Lion Combo. Its just a kick.

That Itachi has no access to. 👆

Itachi took out Wild Boar. Itachi > All.

Oh shit you're right, I forgot.

Wild Boar too strong.

Actually the boar dodged Itachi's kunai and Sasuke's arrow.

Sure at the end of the chapter you see what appears to be a wild boar lying prone on the ground. But of course that is all Kishi could show you. What you didn't see was the Wild Boar getting up because it had been pretending to be prone. It subsequently violated them violently.

Itachi isn't going to do so well with no Mangekyo and no other sharingan genjutsu. He could light Wolvy on fire I guess, he better hope that slows him. He'd probably cause some confusion with shadow clones and hopefully take out Danny. Putting down Wolverine will be the problem.

He rapes with genjutsu though.

A fair post by a respectable poster. 👆

Originally posted by NemeBro
A fair post by a respectable poster. 👆