Godblast Vs Omega Beam

Originally posted by abhilegend
That godblast against Exitar was arguably amped by belt of strength as mjolnir has never shattered channeling godblast. Oh and that godblast against Galactus/Scrier/Other was amped too, not that it did anything against them.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
The Crisis didn't affect the Fourth World...

Originally posted by psycho gundam
actually, the belt was used to brace the hammer from the energies. that was the most powerful godblast on-panel by several magnitudes

Originally posted by abhilegend
That godblast against Exitar was arguably amped by belt of strength as mjolnir has never shattered channeling godblast. Oh and that godblast against Galactus/Scrier/Other was amped too, not that it did anything against them.

Actually the God Blast was not amped, it was the hammer which was reinforced. And yes, the hammer has never shattered on another occasion, which is why it's considered to be far and away the most powerful God Blast seen so far.

Which makes sense, the blast was so intense it actually stunned Exitar and broke his internal dome casting which was more durable then his outside armor. And this was when Celestials were at the height of their power.

I think Godkiller meant that the God Blast shook the three free from Oblivion's negative influence.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's why I said arguably. Thor was touching the belt, right?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's why I said arguably. Thor was touching the belt, right?

Pretty sure that the belt was wrapped around the head of Mjolnir and Thor had both his hands on the handle of the hammer.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think Godkiller meant that the God Blast shook the three free from Oblivion's negative influence.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The godblast wasn't amped, Mjolnir's durability was amped. Thor even says so in that comic. It was a shared blast I agree, but it broke Oblivion's spell upon them. Oblivion hinted that he had played the 3 Abstracts for puppets at the end of the comic, so that's a stupendous feat for the GB, shared feat or not.

I was talking specifically about its feats from the post-crisis era, not whether the Crisis affected the New Gods universe or not.

It was a shared feat and it didn't do much than catching their attention since someone was attacking them. Was it ever explained that it broke any spell over them?

Originally posted by abhilegend
How does that even works? BOS amps thor, not an inanimate object like mjolnir.

What kind of silly question is that? How do you expect anyone to even answer that with a straight face? The writer most likely has no idea how the belt of strength works, much less us.

Mjolnir was reinforced by the belt of strength. Trying to get into anymore in-depth analysis will just end up people yelling magic at you.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How does that even works? BOS amps thor, not an inanimate object like mjolnir.

It was a shared feat and it didn't do much than catching their attention since someone was attacking them. Was it ever explained that it broke any spell over them?

Look over what the phrase "under someone's spell" means. I am talking about Oblivion's manipulation of the Abstracts when I use the term spell. Why would any explanation be given, when we are shown that the 3 of them are no longer acting buck crazy after being hit by the GB, and Oblivion himself tells us that is expectation of the fight to continue doesn't happen?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Actually the God Blast was not amped, it was the hammer which was reinforced. And yes, the hammer has never shattered on another occasion, which is why it's considered to be far and away the most powerful God Blast seen so far.

Which makes sense, the blast was so intense it actually stunned Exitar and broke his internal dome casting which was more durable then his outside armor. And this was when Celestials were at the height of their power.

I think Godkiller meant that the God Blast shook the three free from Oblivion's negative influence.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Can I see the scan since its not in either your or ODG's respect thread that only mjolnir was reinforced?

I'm at work right now (Yes, I'm that bored), I'll post the scans when I get home. I can guarantee you that Thor said he was reinforcing Mjolnir however.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What kind of silly question is that? How do you expect anyone to even answer that with a straight face? The writer most likely has no idea how the belt of strength works, much less us.

Mjolnir was reinforced by the belt of strength. Trying to get into anymore in-depth analysis will just end up people yelling magic at you.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Ask DeFalco how that works. Although my money would be on the fact that since it augments Thor's physical strength when it's wielded by him, it was hence reasoned by Thor that it would similarly strengthen Mjolnir as well.

Look over what the phrase "under someone's spell" means. I am talking about Oblivion's manipulation of the Abstracts when I use the term spell. Why would any explanation be given, when we are shown that the 3 of them are no longer acting buck crazy after being hit by the GB, and Oblivion himself tells us that is expectation of the fight to continue doesn't happen?

Oblivion didn't have them under control anywhere. He was manipulating the fight from behind the scenes.

Because there was no indication that the abstracts were in his control to begin with? Manipulation=/=controlling. Also I find it hilarious that Scrier was an abstract without any explanation when before he was somewhere in Thanos class going by SS v3.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm at work right now (Yes, I'm that bored), I'll post the scans when I get home. I can guarantee you that Thor said he was reinforcing Mjolnir however.

Everyone knows how the belt of strength works on Thor, it doubles his strength. But you asked an explaniation as to how it would reinforce the hammer, that's a dumb question tbh. It's magic, that's the best answer you'll get.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oblivion didn't have them under control anywhere. He was manipulating the fight from behind the scenes.

Because there was no indication that the abstracts were in his control to begin with? Manipulation=/=controlling. Also I find it hilarious that Scrier was an abstract without any explanation when before he was somewhere in Thanos class going by SS v3.

What? Scrier has been able to crush Mephisto outside his realm. That easily puts him beyond Thanos-level.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm at work right now (Yes, I'm that bored), I'll post the scans when I get home. I can guarantee you that Thor said he was reinforcing Mjolnir however.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Oblivion broke 4th wall and teased the reader in the end that it was him who had been pulling the strings all along.

What? Scrier has been able to crush Mephisto outside his realm. That easily puts him beyond Thanos-level.

That was a dead mephisto who was a shadow of his prime and Scrier took him by surprise.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It's available on the respect thread. If abhi has doubts about the validity of our claims, he can verify it himself by checking out the respect thread. Especially considering that this particular idea of the GB being amped when it stunned Exitar has been debunked to death in previous arguments as well.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Pulling strings=/=controlling someone's mind.

That was a dead mephisto who was a shadow of his prime and Scrier took him by surprise.

No its not. I checked it. If you found the scan, please post it.

Mephisto wasn't on his deathbed. He straight up crushed the devil. His most recent portrayal solidified his place as a peer of Galactus-level abstracts in the cosmic hierarchy. Trying to dispute such a basic fact is pointless.

What? It's present on literally the very first page of the thread:

Originally posted by ODG

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsCelestials15.jpg

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
He had them under some kind of cosmic mind control spell. Or do you think that the 3 Abstracts just randomly went crazy and started destroying the multiverse?

Mephisto wasn't on his deathbed. He straight up crushed the devil. His most recent portrayal solidified his place as a peer of Galactus-level abstracts in the cosmic hierarchy. Trying to dispute such a basic fact is pointless.

What? It's present on literally the very first page of the thread:

I'm not dismissing Scrier's recent feats. I'm just amused how Scrier went from needing to add his power to Agatha Harkness to take down a dead mephisto from behind to destroying multiverse and shit.

That's a big leap for a z list character.

Thanks for the scans. Going by that feat, mjolnir can't contain godblast from an exhausted Thor? That contradicts every other godblast showing. Meh.

Agatha is hardcore