Godblast Vs Omega Beam

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not without any kind of proof though.

I'm not dismissing Scrier's recent feats. I'm just amused how Scrier went from needing to add his power to Agatha Harkness to take down a dead mephisto from behind to destroying multiverse and shit.

That's a big leap for a z list character.

Thanks for the scans. Going by that feat, mjolnir can't contain godblast from an exhausted Thor? That contradicts every other godblast showing. Meh.

Agatha has been able to briefly hold her own in a psychic battle with a pissed off Franklin Richards. She has her moments. Scrier is what he is. You being stupended at his supposed push doesn't make him anything less than what he is.

Thor wasn't really exhausted. That was also probably his most powerful individual godblast as well, judging by the fact that DeFalco has written another story in which Thor godblasted the Juggernaut.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Then agree to disagree.

Agatha has been able to briefly hold her own in a psychic battle with a pissed off Franklin Richards. She has her moments. Scrier is what he is. You being stupended at his supposed push doesn't make him anything less than what he is.

Thor wasn't really exhausted. That was also probably his most powerful individual godblast as well, judging by the fact that DeFalco has written another story in which Thor godblasted the Juggernaut.

One high end feat? I've also seen a no name witch knock out Agatha once with a simple spell. I'm just amused how he went from needing help against a dead mephisto to battling galactus without any explanation.

It was made clear by narration that he was exhausted in the same scan.

That's why I think its an outlier.

Originally posted by abhilegend
One high end feat? I've also seen a no name witch knock out Agatha once with a simple spell. I'm just amused how he went from needing help against a dead mephisto to battling galactus without any explanation.

It was made clear by narration that he was exhausted in the same scan.

That's why I think its an outlier.

It was also made clear in the very same panel, that Thor was regaining his strength. Now you're being straight-up dishonest.

Of course it's an outlier, considering that it's believed to be his most powerful godblast yet.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The point is that she's like a walking talking plot device. Scrier is an Abstract-level being, always has been. Deal with it.

It was also made clear in the very same panel, that Thor was regaining his strength. Now you're being straight-up dishonest.

Of course it's an outlier, considering that it's believed to be his most powerful godblast yet.

Thor was wearing his BOS in that panel too which he removed.

It isn't an outlier because of that. Its an outlier because a healthy Thor has fired a full godblast and it didn't shatter mjolnir.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Needing help against a dead mephisto makes you an abstract? Haha.

Thor was wearing his BOS in that panel too which he removed.

It isn't an outlier because of that. Its an outlier because a healthy Thor has fired a full godblast and it didn't shatter mjolnir.

The BOS amps his base level strength, when has it ever been used to rejuvenate his juices?

It's an outlier simply because of what it did to a Mjolnir with amped durability.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Mephisto died only after Scrier crushed him. Context.

The BOS amps his base level strength, when has it ever been used to rejuvenate his juices?

It's an outlier simply because of what it did to a Mjolnir with amped durability.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16229981/SS_v3_136_07b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16229982/SS_v3_136_08a.jpg.html

"Murdered by my own faithless offspring", "But I'm barely a shadow of my prime self".

It has been used to rejuvenate him too IIRC.

Essentially yes. It has never happened before or after that scene even with a healthy Thor.

When has the belt of strength been used to rejuvenate Thor? As a matter of fact, it's been said to drain him of energy.

Thor was exhausted but he regained his strength. And even after he performed the God Blast, he had enough energy to perform this:

Exitar also blasts him down to the planet and in moments he gets back up. Classic Thor just didn't know how to stay down, dude was the definition of stamina.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Did you by any chance forgot to read this?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16229981/SS_v3_136_07b.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16229982/SS_v3_136_08a.jpg.html

"Murdered by my own faithless offspring", "But I'm barely a shadow of my prime self".

It has been used to rejuvenate him too IIRC.

Essentially yes. It has never happened before or after that scene even with a healthy Thor.

It has never been used to rejuvenate him ever as far as I know.

Thor was healthy as a horse in that comic.😂 The panel also clearly states that he was regaining strength. You can't ignore one bit of on-panel evidence and cling to another simply because it suits your argument.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That doesn't in any way take away from the fact that Scrier ultimately crushed him like the insect that he was in Scrier's palms.

It has never been used to rejuvenate him ever as far as I know.

Thor was healthy as a horse in that comic.😂 The panel also clearly states that he was regaining strength. You can't ignore one bit of on-panel evidence and cling to another simply because it suits your argument.

Maybe I missed that to some other trinket Thor carries but it was said to rejuvenate him against Kurse in Thor 363 or something. Anyway even if his strength was returning, he still wasn't at 100%.

Returning strength=/=full strength.

Lol, the exact opposite was said:

Originally posted by abhilegend
That doesn't mean he was an abstract. Heck beating a full power mephisto doesn't makes you skyfather. He also did that by a cheapshot.

Maybe I missed that to some other trinket Thor carries but it was said to rejuvenate him against Kurse in Thor 363 or something. Anyway even if his strength was returning, he still wasn't at 100%.

Returning strength=/=full strength.

That's not what happened. Anyways, even if you believe that it rejuvenates him, then that coupled with the fact that he was still wearing it in the panel where the narrative claims he's exhausted, means that it also rejuvenated him before he put it on Mjolnir. Kind of puts a hole in your argument, so I suggest you drop it and take into consideration the rest of the narrative statement which tells us that Thor is regaining his strength.

How would you know? Notwithstanding the colossal amount of punishment Thor took in that comic and still kept coming, your own rejuvenation theory tells us that he performed the GB at full power.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Actually the God Blast was not amped, it was the hammer which was reinforced. And yes, the hammer has never shattered on another occasion, which is why it's considered to be far and away the most powerful God Blast seen so far.

Which makes sense, the blast was so intense it actually stunned Exitar and broke his internal dome casting which was more durable then his outside armor. And this was when Celestials were at the height of their power.

I think Godkiller meant that the God Blast shook the three free from Oblivion's negative influence.

Why couldn't the hammer have had varying durabilities in both scenes (Exitar vs. Juggs)? Characters and other objects do.

The writer clearly explained both Godblasts to be equal in power.

So we can either ignore the varying durability concept in comics and go against the writer.
Or we can go along with the writer and apply the varying durability concept.

Lastly, we can't fully know the upper durability of Exitar's inner dome without speculation. Obviously, his armor is less durable than enchanted Uru or adamantium. So how much more can we assign his inner dome over his hammer?

The writer never said that they were equal in power, stop lying.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The writer never said that they were equal in power, stop lying.

The writer clearly explained both Godblasts to be equal in power.
Explained and said are two different things.

Originally posted by h1a8
The writer [b]clearly explained both Godblasts to be equal in power.
Explained and said are two different things. [/B]

He did no such thing, stop lying.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He did no such thing, stop lying.

How am I lying?
Did you read the comic?
The writer clearly compared the Godblast against Exitar as the same one against Juggernaut.

What exactly did the writer say?

Originally posted by h1a8
How am I lying?
Did you read the comic?
The writer clearly compared the Godblast against Exitar as the same one against Juggernaut.

The writer did not compare them in regards to power, please stop lying.

Originally posted by -Pr-
What exactly did the writer say?

"A power which once hurled back Galactus, the world eater, and e'en gave pause to an almighty celestial!"

Originally posted by h1a8
"A power which once hurled back Galactus, the world eater, and e'en gave pause to an almighty celestial!"

That's very vague, tbh. You can't really use that as the sole basis for a comparison.