Heh, the myth that the universe wasn't destroyed is pretty annoying.
Originally posted by Rorschach
Thought I'd clear this up, since it's apparently becoming an issue when discussing Prime.Monarch destroyed everything in that Universe except for a sapling, and the a small patch of land.
As to why it survived, well, it's like Nix speculated, it could have been luck, his personal shields, etc.
So, why were there cities when Superman went to Earth-51 in Superman Beyond?
Because Earth-51 had been recreated, and then destroyed again.
If anyone here remembers what happened in Countdown (which should be no one), they'd remember that Karate Kid ends up spreading a virus that wipes out an entire Universe.
That Universe was the recreated Earth-51, as stated here by Solomon.
http://tinypic.com/r/2edzhid/5
The Earth-51 in Superman Beyond was the one that had been wiped out by the virus, not that which had been wiped out by Monarch's blast.
I mean, yeah, they are the same Universe, but that explains why there are buildings and stuff even though Monarch destroyed pretty much everything.
Being a Marvel fan and thinking Superman is the lamest character ever I have to go with Supes. I just can't get past the fact that someone whose one and only attack is to punch things can beat someone who has a plethora of other abilities and outclasses them in everything except strength and durability and those are probably a wash anyway.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Being a Marvel fan and thinking Superman is the lamest character ever I have to go with Supes. I just can't get past the fact that someone whose one and only attack is to punch things can beat someone who has a plethora of other abilities and outclasses them in everything except strength and durability and those are probably a wash anyway.
How many wins would you give Surfer over Superman?
Originally posted by carver9
Not changing the subject. His logic isn't so great.Hulk destroys Prime.
LIES!
Superboy Prime at default is enough to give Worldbreaker Hulk fits. With the Guardian Amp he smashes Banner with ease.
Speed hasn't been equalized here and there is no way for Worldbreaker Hulk to surmount that obstacle.
When I read the HOTM arc, the Hulk, and Red She-Hulk had an in air collision that displaced an untold amount of real estate. Now what I am wondering, is how fast would two objects weighing roughly 3500 lbs combined, have to be traveling in order to displace planetary plus sized bodies? If speed equals mass, they would have had to been moving at light speed, or above light speed. Can someone chime in for clarification on this? To have survived this impact alone gives, or gave the reader an idea of exactly how durable, and strong the Hulk's body is, and was at the time of this story.
I think Prime would have his hands full, and I have a hard time understanding anyone calling this a stomp for either character. From what i read from many posters, the best argument mustered was used to low ball, or ignore the hell out of either characters feats involved here. i guess this is the only way to prove that their super guy wins this. Is it enough? Not even close. I don't see either winning this. All that I can imagine is that the universe that the fight took place would be destroyed, and both would likely be incapacitated.
Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
SBP would smash all hulks.@stoic
You do realize SBP survived a universe busting blast right? Hulk has not.
You do realize that there was no amount given to the real estate that was displaced during an in air collision? Am I right? of course I am. You're reasons for Primes win are as baseless as the arguments for the Hulk's win. You also realize that the Hulk wasn't even at his most powerful when the impact occurred. I read and saw how Prime beat GL's and Supermen, but no one took into account that the Hulk before even going into the Dark Dimension at a much less powerful level was beating the hell out of Wendigo amped 1000x his base level, and this was the Wendigo that fought against the Savage Hulk, and Sasquatch, and was not put down. Like I said he was 1000x greater than that Wendigo. The Hulk toyed with him, and Bi-Beast at 1000x their base levels. he wasn't even warmed up yet. I needed to fully emphasize what you are arguing against. i know how powerful GA prime was, but I don't think that it is enough to take a guy out on HOTM Hulk's level. Not when he wasn't ever said to be done growing in strength.
Originally posted by carver9
Hyperion survived two universes exploding on him and regular Savage Hulk still busted his lip open with ease. I don't get your point.
Don't you get it yet Carver? One feat was tossed out as being space cheese, and the other is touted as the real thing. The choice goes to whatever side is most liked. Prime punches through a dimensional barrier, but no one accounts for Betty (Red She Hulk) doing the same, or the Hulk doing so as well. Hell didn't Juggernaut pull off the same power stunt?