WB to announce Superman/Batman & JLA movies

Originally posted by Zack M
Even if she were to have her own show, that doesn't mean she would be as popular as the big 3.

Well... Without Any Show, or Any Film, her popularity certainly won't increase.

The JL/JLU cartoons have given her the most exposure in the last couple of decades.

Originally posted by Zack M
Actually, Superman isn't nearly as popular as he once was. He used to be even more popular than say Batman and Spider-Man, but times have changed. There used to be a time when SHAZAM was more popular than Superman.

Batman's popularity has soared up due to the Nolan trilogy. Even though Batman&Robin dented his name years earlier.

Point is without any exposure you're not going to increase their popularity.

Big names like Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman are easy to make popular, because people know their names. You just need to make a good film with them (If not then at least a Tv show preferably on a big network).

Heck they even gave Supergirl her own film (unfortunately it sucked) back in the day, and have given her a shot at the small screen now as well.

I'm not sure why you're even justifying WB not giving WW any exposure until now. Do you think she shouldn't get any exposure?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well... Without Any Show, or Any Film, her popularity certainly won't increase.

The JL/JLU cartoons have given her the most exposure in the last couple of decades.

Batman's popularity has soared up due to the Nolan trilogy. Even though Batman&Robin dented his name years earlier.

Point is without any exposure you're not going to increase their popularity.

Big names like Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman are easy to make popular, because people know their names. You just need to make a good film with them (If not then at least a Tv show preferably on a big network).

Heck they even gave Supergirl her own film (unfortunately it sucked) back in the day, and have given her a shot at the small screen now as well.

I'm not sure why you're even justifying WB not giving WW any exposure until now. Do you think she shouldn't get any exposure?

I'm not justifying WB not giving exposure. Just that it's not a guarantee to make one popular. Superman has had a bit of exposure, but isn't more popular than he was several decades ago.

I'm not sure that Nolan made Batman more popular, though. 89 Batman sold more tickets than TDKR or Batman Begins.

http://www.businessinsider.com/dark-knight-rises-sold-12-million-fewer-tickets-than-tim-burtons-original-batman-2012-8

BTW, I found another link of TDK selling more tickets than the Avengers. If TDK was in 3-D, the final gross would have been huge.

http://www.altfg.com/film/avengers-movie-box-office-the-dark-knight-scarlett-johansson/

Originally posted by Zack M
I'm not justifying WB not giving exposure. Just that it's not a guarantee to make one popular. Superman has had a bit of exposure, but isn't more popular than he was several decades ago.

I'm not sure that Nolan made Batman more popular, though. 89 Batman sold more tickets than TDKR or Batman Begins.

http://www.businessinsider.com/dark-knight-rises-sold-12-million-fewer-tickets-than-tim-burtons-original-batman-2012-8

Yes Burton certainly did amp up Batman. Then Schumacher gave him a bad name again, then Nolan revived him.

People are eager to see good entertainment with Big names like Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman.

But with no exposure, of course WW won't be as popular.

Originally posted by Zack M
BTW, I found another link of TDK selling more tickets than the Avengers. If TDK was in 3-D, the final gross would have been huge.

http://www.altfg.com/film/avengers-movie-box-office-the-dark-knight-scarlett-johansson/

That's really impressive especially considering TDK wasn't really a family movie. Still I'm sure Heath's untimely passing had some influence on that. Still those are monster numbers.

My female friend never heard the of Iron Man until his first movie and I'm sure she knew who Wonder Woman who was. I thought it was weird, but not everyone saw the 90's Marvel cartoons like I did. Media exposure does wonders for unknown characters.

^ Of course. How can a character gain popularity without exposure? That's just common sense.

But the fact that everyone already knows who WW is would have given her a massive advantage over movie franchises like Iron Man when they first started.

I think iron man works extremely well on the big screen. More so than most heroes. So far iron man is #2 right behind batman when it comes to BO success
Not even spiderman can beat IM. Thor can't beat him. Cap, hulk, nor teams like Guardians can as well. Characters like Iron man are the exception.

Originally posted by Zack M
I think iron man works extremely well on the big screen. More so than most heroes. So far iron man is #2 right behind batman when it comes to BO success
Not even spiderman can beat IM. Thor can't beat him. Cap, hulk, nor teams like Guardians can as well. Characters like Iron man are the exception.

Originally posted by Zack M
I think iron man works extremely well on the big screen. More so than most heroes. So far iron man is #2 right behind batman when it comes to BO success
Not even spiderman can beat IM. Thor can't beat him. Cap, hulk, nor teams like Guardians can as well. Characters like Iron man are the exception.

I don't know how IM's mega success is supposed to mean not giving WW exposure was not a bad thing? Who says WW had to be IM big?

Captain America is a massive franchise which has made him extremely popular. He wasn't that popular before, but he was well known like WW.

WW could have been Cap big, but WB just never bothered with her.

[QUOTE=15360812]Originally posted by Darth Thor
I don't know how IM's mega success is supposed to mean not giving WW exposure was not a bad thing? Who says WW had to be IM big?

Captain America is a massive franchise which has made him extremely popular. He wasn't that popular before, but he was well known like WW.

WW could have been Cap big, but WB just never bothered with her. [/QUOTE

Why are you putting words in my mouth? I never said those things at all. I predict WW will do Thor/ Cap numbers world wide.

It's not like Cap was popular before Disney bought out Marvel studiois. In fact he had some of the worst super hero movies in the 70s and early 80s.

WW could still be huge. Especially after her role in JLA. And early buzz hints that she's the highlight of the movie.

Originally posted by Zack M
[QUOTE=15360812]Originally posted by Darth Thor
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It's not like Cap was popular before Disney bought out Marvel studiois. In fact he had some of the worst super hero movies in the 70s and early 80s.

He also had an old cartoon from the 60's, But yeah still a small group that even knows of him.

Originally posted by Zack M

Why are you putting words in my mouth? I never said those things at all.

I'm not. You're just going off on tangents instead of admitting WB should have done something with WW a long time ago, because she's such a big name, but without exposure her popularity won't increase.

Originally posted by Zack M
It's not like Cap was popular before Disney bought out Marvel studiois. In fact he had some of the worst super hero movies in the 70s and early 80s.

Because they had to give him a good movie for him to gain popularity. Without exposure he's not going to gain popularity. I don't see what's so difficult to understand.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I'm not. You're just going off on tangents instead of admitting WB should have done something with WW a long time ago, because she's such a big name, but without exposure her popularity won't increase.

Because they had to give him a good movie for him to gain popularity. Without exposure he's not going to gain popularity. I don't see what's so difficult to understand.

I already admitted that they should have gave a lot if characters movies. Wonder woman isn't the only one. But to be honest, I'm not a bug ww fan so I don't care either way. We really shouldn't be telling warner Bros what to do. For the past 30 plus years they've been the number one studio that doesn't have to rely on super hero properties and have the number one in market share. With Disney following close behind.

Originally posted by Zack M
We really shouldn't be telling warner Bros what to do. For the past 30 plus years they've been the number one studio that doesn't have to rely on super hero properties and have the number one in market share. With Disney following close behind.

You're right about that. They don't have to rely on comic book super heroes to make their dough. Unfortunately for them (fortunate for us), it isn't smart business for them to put DC movies on the back burner while Marvel keeps churning out profitable ones. It makes them look incompetent in that area, out of touch with their customers, and minimizes the profits they could be earning.

Accidental double post.

Originally posted by Femi32
You're right about that. They don't have to rely on comic book super heroes to make their dough. Unfortunately for them (fortunate for us), it isn't smart business for them to put DC movies on the back burner while Marvel keeps churning out profitable ones. It makes them look incompetent in that area, out of touch with their customers, and minimizes the profits they could be earning.

That's why I'm glad Kevin Tsujihara became the new CEO. Ever since he's been CEO he has been focusing heavily on not only the mainstream dc characters, but the Vertigo line as well. I called this way before they announced their slate of movies and everyone here was rolling their eyes at me. Now look where we are now. Not only 10 dc movies, but 100 bullets and Sandman in the works.

Originally posted by Zack M
That's why I'm glad Kevin Tsujihara became the new CEO. Ever since he's been CEO he has been focusing heavily on not only the mainstream dc characters, but the Vertigo line as well. I called this way before they announced their slate of movies and everyone here was rolling their eyes at me. Now look where we are now. Not only 10 dc movies, but 100 bullets and Sandman in the works.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
We'll see how the DC movies do. It's one thing to announce a ton of movies; it's another thing entirely for those movies to work in a Cinematic Universe. Marvel built the infrastructure for their universe first with a bunch of solo movies. That strategy worked great. DC is trying to jump the gun and make a "Team movie" right out of the gates with Dawn of Justice. Now, it might work (and probably will make alot of money); but it's still weird to see the first appearance of the DCU Batman, WW etc. in a "team" movie. It works alot better for Batman though because we saw the Wayne industries stuff in MoS and he's going to have a believable "origin" in Dawn of Justice. WW is really up in the air, as is everyone else.

Wonder woman is coming first, then JLA. Marvel way isn't the only way and this way, people will be more invested in the characters if JLA is good. We don't really need a solo Batman movie before JLA and we just got Superman movie on top of WW. Wb isn't really jumping the gun, imo. I just hope they're good movies.

Originally posted by Zack M
Marvel way isn't the only way....

Not necessarily. Time will tell if WB way will work.