Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Started by Robtard638 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
That is a team film not the same thing. This is a team up film which will introduce a lot of characters not on any team.

It's virtually the same thing, quan.

GotG had a group of people who weren't teamed up but later became a team for a common cause. This film is about a group of people who weren't teamed up but came/come together for a common cause. This is also the foundation for the Justice League film, which is about a group of people who come together for a common cause. same/same/same

Originally posted by Robtard
It's virtually the same thing, quan.

GotG had a group of people who weren't teamed up (some were enemies) but later became a team for a common cause. This film is about a group of people who weren't teamed up but came/come together for a common cause. This is also the foundation for the Justice League film, which is about a group of people who come together for a common cause. same/same/same

There is a difference as this film won't center around a team it will center around the conflict between Superman and Batman while introducing a whole shit ton of characters. Bad idea.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There is a difference as this film won't center around a team it will center around the conflict between Superman and Batman while introducing a whole shit ton of characters. Bad idea.

Character conflict was a big part of GotG as the heroes needed to learn how to work together. FFS, Drax wanted to murder Gamora and Rocket wanted to kill everyone except for Groot at one point.

For snippets leaked "teamwork" will be a big part of this film after the heroes come together for the common cause. You're really reaching here to paint this film as being shit for doing what GotG and others have done successfully before.

Originally posted by Robtard
Character conflict was a big part of GotG as the heroes needed to learn how to work together. FFS, Drax wanted to murder Gamora.

For snippets leaked "teamwork" will be a big part of this film after the heroes come together for the common cause. You're really reaching here to paint this film as being shit for doing what GotG and others have done successfully before.

This isn't about a team it will be centered around Batman and Superman coming together so throwing all kinds of secondary characters in it when it isn't about a team isn't the same thing.

He is nitpicking, but are you surprised?

Team up movie only makes it more in their favor. They can get away with it because they don't really have to focus on the secondary characters, because like Quan put it this is Batman v Superman. Not JL.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
He is nitpicking, but are you surprised?

Team up movie only makes it more in their favor. They can get away with it because they don't really have to focus on the secondary characters, because like Quan put it this is Batman v Superman. Not JL.

It will take away from the film being about batman and superman. Too much for one film. They are acting like jackasses and trying to play catch up with mighty marvel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This isn't about a team it will be centered around Batman and Superman coming together so throwing all kinds of secondary characters in it when it isn't about a team isn't the same thing.

Now you're nitpicking about Superman and Batman teaming in a film about them? Odd.

And you know Wonder Woman will be on the sidelines how? So far with all the promos she seems a fairly large part of the film.

Originally posted by Robtard
Now you're nitpicking about Superman and Batman teaming in a film about them? Odd.

And you know Wonder Woman will be on the sidelines how? So far with all the promos she seems a fairly large part of the film.

I think making her a central character is a huge mistake which takes away from Superman and Batman. It is like a Jla prequel more or less. Bad move.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think making her a central character is a huge mistake which takes away from Superman and Batman. It is like a Jla prequel more or less. Bad move.

You previously implied that having Wonder Woman as a "secondary" character is a bad idea. But having her as a central one is bad too now? Seems like you're just posting to crap on the film for any possible reason, Quan.

Team movies can work if implemented well.
I dont think its fair to compare GOTG to Justice league (characters) though.

wonder woman, aquaman, flash, cyborg, green lantern, lex luthor, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GOTG in popularity.

You cant half ass their origins like some obscure characters like GOTG. Most of those DC characters are pop icons.

Originally posted by Robtard
You previously implied that having Wonder Woman as a "secondary" character is a bad idea. But having her as a central one is bad too now? Seems like you're just posting to crap on the film for any possible reason, Quan.
She is still secondary as she isn't in the title. It is about Batman and Superman. Look at the title where does it state WW.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She is still secondary as she isn't in the title. It is about Batman and Superman. Look at the title where does it state WW.

Okay, what you said avoided what I pointed out:

You previously implied that having Wonder Woman as a "secondary" character is a bad idea. But having her as a central one is bad too now? Seems like you're just posting to crap on the film for any possible reason, Quan.

Originally posted by Robtard
Okay, what you said avoided what I pointed out:

You previously implied that having Wonder Woman as a "secondary" character is a bad idea. But having her as a central one is bad too now? Seems like you're just posting to crap on the film for any possible reason, Quan.

No, as she isn't a central character. It would be a bad idea to give her as much screen time as a central character as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, as she isn't a central character. It would be a bad idea to give her as much screen time as a central character as well.

I doubt she'll have the same amount of screen time as either Batman or Superman. But if they do and it works, so be it.

Originally posted by Robtard
I doubt she'll have the same amount of screen time as either Batman or Superman. But if they do and it works, so be it.
Basically no matter what they do you'll be ok with showing you're biased.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Team movies can work if implemented well.
I dont think its fair to compare GOTG to Justice league (characters) though.

wonder woman, aquaman, flash, cyborg, green lantern, lex luthor, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GOTG in popularity.

You cant half ass their origins like some obscure characters like GOTG. Most of those DC characters are pop icons.

True, but you don't have to show their origins in just one movie/their first appearance.

For all we know the other chars could just be cameos(besides Diana)

I'd say just give it time. *Shrug*

Originally posted by quanchi112
Basically no matter what they do you'll be ok with showing you're biased.

Reading comprehension fail again as I've been openly critical of this film (eg casting decisions) and just stated "if it works" above concerning WW.

That is funny coming for the guy who shits on the film for any reason though. Good job 👆 "If wonder woman is a central character it will suck." 'If Wonder Woman is secondary it will be a bad idea."-you

Originally posted by Robtard
Reading comprehension fail again as I've been openly critical of this film (eg casting decisions) and just stated "if it works" above concerning WW.

That is funny coming for the guy who shits on the film for any reason though. Good job 👆 "If wonder woman is a central character it will suck." 'If Wonder Woman is secondary it will be a bad idea."-you

I don't believe any secondary character should ever be used as often as a central character. You basically said no matter what you'll love it. Bias.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't believe any secondary character should ever be used as often as a central character.

You basically said no matter what you'll love it. Bias.

Okay.

Incorrect. This is you having a reading comprehension fail moment again.

Originally posted by Inhuman
It takes more than "feats" to make a movie good.
IMO MOS was lacking in a few departments to be classified as a good movie.

I just dont get people like Th3 Void that all it takes is superman lifting or punching heavy things in order for the movie to be legendary to them.

Not really. Besides some questionable character development scenes that only really bother people because of prior history of the character, the film was rather fantastic. Felt less like a comic book film and more like a sci film epic about the ultimate alien invasion. The tension was great and as Void noted, the massive power levels really made this feel like a comic book translated rather than adapted to the big screen. The film really made Supes look like the ultimate good guy taking out the ultimate threat to humanity. The visuals were very creative and awe-inspiring and the score was amazing. It had all the grandeur a Superman movie deserves IMO. Definitely one of the all time best superhero and arguably sci film films I have ever seen.