Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Started by Robtard638 pages

It's not even remotely too late. Not that it matters, since Marvel and DC are not actually competing for audience dollars, as someone who watched Avengers:AoU opening week will likely be sitting in BvS just the same. Everyone here will likely be. Word of mouth after is what separates them with the casual fans.

Rarely will you hear something like "I watched Captain America, so I'm not going to watch MoS because of it." It's the same nerds in both audiences.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's not even remotely too late. Not that it matters, since Marvel and DC are not actually competing for audience dollars, as someone who watched Avengers:AoU will likely be sitting in BvS just the same. Everyone here will likely be.

Rarely will you hear something like "I watched Captain America, so I'm not going to watch MoS because of it." It's the same nerds in both audiences.

Well, eventually people tire of something and seeing multiple films for over five years has probably already started this process. DC should have gotten their asses into gear years ago prior to the avengers. Marvel is onto phase three already FFS.

Marvel's problem is lessor films as the stories progress.

While CA:Winter Soldier was an improvement over the first, it seems to be the one exception. Avengers:AoU wasn't as good as Avengers, Thor:TDW not as good as Thor. IM2 and especially IM3, not even remotely as good as IM.

I loved GoTG, but at this point I'm not expecting them to improve on the sequel, hopefully I'll be proved wrong.

Originally posted by Robtard
Marvel's problem is lessor films as the stories progress.

While CA:Winter Soldier was an improvement over the first, it seems to be the one exception. Avengers:AoU wasn't as good as Avengers, Thor:TDW not as good as Thor. IM2 and especially IM3, not even remotely as good as IM.

I loved GoTG, but at this point I'm not expecting them to improve on the sequel, hopefully I'll be proved wrong.

All a matter of opinion. I've also heard people favor age of Ultron over the first though even I disagree. Ironman 2 was my fave ironman film. Marvel continues to be successful and have even made a considerable profit on Ant Man which I found to be quite boring. I just don't see DC competing with Disney's marketing machine especially this late into the game. I do see Batman vs Superman as being a mega hit seeing as how it's their two big icons but I don't see them gathering steam after that film.

Sure, some differ, but the masses seem to agree that the following films are not as good as the first, barring CA:WS, which most people think is one of Marvel's best, if not the best.

Making lots of money won't be a problem for BvS, breaking records will. Really depends though, if BvS is a solid film, genuinely good story and action, I can see that launching the DCU.

Originally posted by Robtard
Sure, some differ, but the masses seem to agree that the following films are not as good as the first, barring CA:WS, which most people think is one of Marvel's best, if not the best.

Making lots of money won't be a problem for BvS, breaking records will. Really depends though, if BvS is a solid film, genuinely good story and action, I can see that launching the DCU.

Iirc the same bros. who directed that film are directing Infinity War parts one and two. What's scary is that Disney doesn't even own all of the film rights to marvels library of characters and are still hitting it out of the park.

I think BVS will benefit by being the first big film after Star Wars. Audiences will be starved for another blockbuster. We are seeing it right now with Bond and Hunger Games underperforming. People are saving for Star Wars.I expect something similar for BVS.

Bringing in the Russo bros is a smart move, rather exciting actually. They should also bring in Markus and McFeely Markus to write, make it a full reunion

Originally posted by playa1258
I think BVS will benefit by being the first big film after Star Wars. Audiences will be starved for another blockbuster. We are seeing it right now with Bond and Hunger Games underperforming. People are saving for Star Wars.I expect something similar for BVS.
I don't see Batman and Superman being on Star Wars level especially if it's another sub par film like Man of Steel.

It won't be, but it will do well over 1 billion.

Originally posted by playa1258
It won't be, but it will do well over 1 billion.
If that's all DC can muster with two icons and this must buildup then lol.

You're being ridiculously harsh just because it's DC. Making well over a billion would be a huge achievement for BvS. Avengers made 1.5b and it had the luxury of having several films buildup to it and a cast of seven heroes on the roster. BvS only has MoS and it's a new/untested Batman.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're being ridiculously harsh just because it's DC. Making well over a billion would be a huge achievement for BvS. Avengers made 1.5b and it had the luxury of having several films buildup to it and a cast of seven heroes on the roster. BvS only has MoS and it's a new/untested Batman.
Not at all. These are two icons putting them together for the first time. Batman alone has made over a billion. What's sad is Superman's brand has fallen off in recent years that he needs Batman to steal top billing to usher in this new DC shared cinematic universe. Gotg a relatively unknown team wasn't ridiculously far off a billion. What marvel has done is amazing.

Yeah, you are. Pretty much making it that unless BvS makes 2billion or more, it's a bust, which is silly.

TDKR made over a billion after two fantastic films bolstering it. BvS has MoS backing it up and a new Batman which people are skeptical about. If it matches Avengers 1.5b, that will be an achievement in of itself.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, you are. Pretty much making it that unless BvS makes 2billion or more, it's a bust, which is silly.

TDKR made over a billion after two fantastic films bolstering it. BvS has MoS backing it up and a new Batman which people are skeptical about. If it matches Avengers 1.5b, that will be an achievement in of itself.

It should at the least make 1.25 billion since batman alone has made more than a billion years ago. Marvel is at the top of the mountain but hell it is so lopsided Iron Man 3 kicked the shit out of Man of Steel.

BVS beats Avengers and and marvel fans will be in attack mode.

Originally posted by playa1258
BVS beats Avengers and and marvel fans will be in attack mode.
I'd probably end up murdering you and everyone you love.

Nice.

🙂

MOS did quite well, actually. Made most of its production budget before the movie even came out through promotional support and nearly 700 m world wide with a bunch of competition. MOS did more than any of Marvel's movies in phase 1 sans Avengers and WB is on pace to break Marvel's record for first 10 movies.

Superman isn't nearly as popular as he was in today's generation, so saying that superman should make more is irrelevant.