Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Started by Zack M638 pages

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Why because Gal doesn't ruin it? 😬

I've said for a while they're going to give WW some really cool scenes for her to stand out.

Yes. The way you and John Campea have been going on about, makes it look like Gal wouldn't do WW justice. Judging by the early buzz (Which may or may not be true), it sounds like Gal did a good job.

Originally posted by Zack M
Yes. The way you and John Campea have been going on about, makes it look like Gal wouldn't do WW justice. Judging by the early buzz (Which may or may not be true), it sounds like Gal did a good job.

What? Lol Campea's your friend. Not mine.

She has a small role, and it's mainly action (which she should be good at), so she should be fine for this. But Have you seen her in the Fast & Furious films Lol Don't think she was the right pick for WW. But hoping they make the best out of a bad choice, which seems to be the case.

Anyway Interview with Zack Snyder:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/batman-v-superman-married-creative-874799

^ Each film will have a different tone but consistent being in the same Universe. Flash will be lighter than Wonder Woman.

Oh and he talks about the Marvel/DC rivalry saying it's only a small group of people on the Internet, and that most audiences don't know the difference, which is true tbh.

Yeah, it's true. But saying the rivalry doesn't exist is bs.

Not the best is not the same as being bad. Gadot at least deserves the benefit of the doubt, imo.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Yeah, it's true. But saying the rivalry doesn't exist is bs.

It's non-existent for most people who don't even know if Wolverine is Marvel or DC. That's what he means I think.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not the best is not the same as being bad. Gadot at least deserves the benefit of the doubt, imo.

Meh. Will see.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh and he talks about the Marvel/DC rivalry saying it's only a small group of people on the Internet, and that most audiences don't know the difference, which is true tbh.
That's not really true. Most people I think, especially today's youth, know the difference between at least the major characters in both companies.

Also, that just smells of backpeddling by someone (Snyder) who's been fueling the fire in the flame war. He was bad-mouthing Marvel; I suppose he's finally coming to his senses.

Just last week at the GYM a younger guy asked me if I'm going to see BVS, I said yes.

I asked him if he was and he replied he's not into Marvel movies.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Just last week at the GYM a younger guy asked me if I'm going to see BVS, I said yes.

I asked him if he was and he replied he's not into Marvel movies.

So, your story is that HE approached YOU and asked you if you were going to see BvS. If that guy is really that stupid to not even know what he's talking about then he doesn't count. That's like asking you if you are going to vote Republican or Democrat whilst not knowing what the differences between the two are. I suppose I should have framed what I said by saying most semi-intelligent young people know the difference.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
So, your story is that HE approached YOU and asked you if you were going to see BvS. If that guy is really that stupid to not even know what he's talking about then he doesn't count. That's like asking someone if you are going to vote Republican or Democrat whilst not knowing what the differences between the two are. I suppose I should have framed what I said by saying most semi-intelligent young people know the difference.
People go to school to learn the difference between democrat or republican. Marvel and DC is not on the Curriculum

Originally posted by juggernaut74
People go to school to learn the difference between democrat or republican. Marvel and DC is not on the Curriculum

Your point? Marvel and DC are pop-culture. Politics bore alot of people, especially younger kids. Whereas movies, games and music resonate with most people. Most kids/youth today are saturated by comics by different mediums. Cartoon shows, movies and games. Sure, if people live under a rock and/or just don't ever watch any comic movies...then I could see them not knowing the difference. But anyone that pays any kind of attention to pop-culture should know the major players; as I said.

Also, just because people "go to school to learn the difference" doesn't mean they actually learn.

The only place I see people arguing Marvel/DC is over the internet. Most people don't give a shit.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
The only place I see people arguing Marvel/DC is over the internet. Most people don't give a shit.
I never said they had to argue. I just said most semi-intelligent people will know the difference.

Comic movies, as I said, have become a cultural phenomenon. Whereas comic books are suffering and only the true fans/nerds still read them....the movies have become bigger than any other movie type around.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I never said they had to argue. I just said most semi-intelligent people will know the difference.
Well I must live around a bunch of morons then.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Comic movies, as I said, have become a cultural phenomenon. Whereas comic books are suffering and only the true fans/nerds still read them....the movies have become bigger than any other movie type around.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Well I must live around a bunch of morons then.

Either that or they just don't watch comic movies or pay attention to any of the marketing that pervades our lives today.

Nah people are asking me all the time difference between Marvel and DC. And which characters from which. I have on multiple times explained to people that Batman/Superman are DC and Spider-Man/Wolverine are Marvel.

The goodwill of the MCU gets that association from Avengers and related properties. But most people are not like "Oh this is Marvel, that'll be good, and that's DC so I won't bother with it."

It's the products that sell well, and related products, which is where the shared universe helps.

For example, people were not like "Oh Spider-Man's Marvel, so TASM2 will be great," because it was the Avengers related products that had the goodwill. Now that Spider-Man's associated with the MCU however, it'll be different.

Same with the TDK trilogy. That sold really well and had great goodwill associated with it. But that's not really helped the name "DC".

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nah people are asking me all the time difference between Marvel and DC.
Nah everyone I talk to knows the difference between the two..... What a stupid response. Just because you interview neanderthals all day long doesn't mean the cognizant public don't know the difference. Perhaps you're right though, maybe DC has sucked so hard that no one knows who Superman or Batman are anymore. But I don't think that's the case.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Nah everyone I talk to knows the difference between the two..... What a stupid response. Just because you interview neanderthals all day long doesn't mean the cognizant public don't know the difference. Perhaps you're right though, maybe DC has sucked so hard that no one knows who Superman or Batman are anymore. But I don't think that's the case.

You really need to calm down on topics related to Marvel and learn to have a rational conversation without getting so emotional.

I mean LOL @ people who don't know the difference between Marvel and DC being "Neanderthals"

Originally posted by Darth Thor
You really need to calm down on topics related to Marvel and learn to have a rational conversation without getting so emotional.
I am perfectly calm. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of statements like the one you made. Stating that I'm wrong because the people you talk to don't know the difference between apples and oranges. Also, Marvel? This is about both Marvel and DC

I mean LOL @ people who don't know the difference between Marvel and DC being "Neanderthals"
Well, it's not a far off statement. I could say that everyone I talk to knows the difference. But that's easy to say on the internet.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I am perfectly calm.

So then you're just not capable of a civilized conversation? Well at least not when the word "Marvel" is involved.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I'm just pointing out the stupidity of statements like the one you made.

Tell me how else am I supposed to judge what randoms audiences think? Let me guess, from IMDB Lol

And I gave a perfectly rational argument. Explained how Spider-Man is Marvel but he doesn't have that MCU goodwill, just because he's Marvel.

Now do you really think EVERYONE knows whose in Marvel, whose not, and which of the Marvel characters are with Fox and Sony as well LOL

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Stating that I'm wrong because the people you talk to don't know the difference between apples and oranges.

When I said "Nah" I didn't literally mean "you're wrong and I'm right- FACT".

I was just giving my own observations.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Also, Marvel? This is about both Marvel and DC

Yeah but you seem to get all emotional over Marvel.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Well, it's not a far off statement. I could say that everyone I talk to knows the difference. But that's easy to say on the internet.

So tell me do your Mum and Dad know the difference? If not are they also Neandrathals?

Knowing the name Marvel is one thing, but expecting Everyone to know which characters are associated with which comic book company, and which Movie studio has which rights, is taking Geek culture a little too far.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So then you're just not capable of a civilized conversation? Well at least not when the word "Marvel" is involved.
Sigh. Again, what the hell are you talking about. I'm not ripping DC or praising Marvel. I'm stating that most people that pay any attention at all to pop culture know the difference between the companies.

Tell me how else am I supposed to judge what randoms audiences think? Let me guess, from IMDB Lol
Random? What's random about interviewing people you live near? And, do you have a microphone whilst interviewing them? Curious.

And I gave a perfectly rational argument. Explained how Spider-Man is Marvel but he doesn't have that MCU goodwill, just because he's Marvel.
Actually, most people I'd argue know that Spider-man is Marvel. It also has NOTHING to do with Avengers good will. It's the fact that the last ASM movie sucked ass.
Now do you really think EVERYONE knows whose in Marvel, whose not, and which of the Marvel characters are with Fox and Sony as well LOL
Are you literally rolling on the floor? Every statement you make ends with a laugh. You must find yourself to be hilarious. Anyway, I've already stated what I think. I, judging by the people around me, think that most COGNIZANT people know the difference. My 8 year old Niece knows the difference. But sure, let's pretend that Superman is Marvel and Captain America is DC....
When I said "Nah" I didn't literally mean "you're wrong and I'm right- FACT".
Oh really? Hmmm, weird way to start a statement then.
Yeah but you seem to get all emotional over Marvel.
Wow, you're really trying to turn this into a flame war between Marvel and DC. Again, I don't know how many times you have to read something to learn, but this isn't about Marvel. This is about both companies and the saturation of them in our society. You are starting to sound more like Golgo every day.

So tell me do your Mum and Dad know the difference? If not are they also Neandrathals?
Yes, my parents know the difference. In fact my entire family knows the difference. But that's not exactly fair because I'm a comic nerd.
Knowing the name Marvel is one thing, but expecting Everyone to know which characters are associated with which comic book company is taking Geek culture a little too far.
The point is, geek culture has become pop culture. It'd be one thing to not know the difference 10 years ago. But the way that advertising works nowadays...as I said it's pervasive. I go into the grocery story I see Batman and Superman cereal box stands. I see Marvel stuff plastered everywhere. So yes, if people are paying attention to the world around them they'll probably know the difference.